They could also just knock the old terminal long term and expand in that direction it would make more sense?? There is plenty of room for expansion there.

What is the latest with the Nav aids at cork? What happened to the Easyjet package? Anymore recent pics ?

Allocation of parking stands and other aerodrome services will be by agreement between the airline in question and the airport operator.

Aer Arann for example may not wish to pay the cost of using an air bridge for an ATR service.
Consider too the type of equipment available - The specific Air bridge may not be able to extend far and low enough for an ATR.

There is also the issue of capacity. No airport operator in their right mind wants as ATR parked on a stand marked out for a 747, when they could park 2 ATR's on the same amount of remote tarmac.

Facilities such as De-Iceing can be provided by airlines themselves, ground handling companies or by the airport authority, depending on each individual airport, but you will almost always find that anywhere a 'priority' list exists it is only because that customer has a larger or more valuable contract with the company providing De-Icing.

" He who pays most gets best soonest service" as I was once told in Hong Kong...

Servisair have been riding on their luck in recent relativelly mild winters. The reality is that Cork is not equiped to deal with heavy frost and God Help us if there is a heavy snowfall.

On the last occasioin the airport authorities made no effort to clear the runway simply because the staff were on Christmas Holidays and in any event they have no snowploughs apart from a tractor with a glorified shovel attached to it.

Cork will be closed for indefinitely if we have a Winter Freeze up and on the law of averages we're due one.

"The 5 million figure seems to be what the terminal can be expanded to handle, by adding a pier to the north towards (ie levelling?) the cargo village."

That pier was in the original plans. It is essentially an extended corridor with an additional 4 gates (with airbridges) running to the right of the new terminal.

You've never been to Cork then!

The current terminal at cork does not have air bridges. SLF walk onto planes, but as ad astra said, the larger carriers always seem to get the stands nearest the entrance/exit.

How many 747's land in EICK every day that might have their
parking area blocked by an ATR

If they put parking across the runway, they may be obliged to provide buses to the terminal. I can just imagine the anouncement on the planes.

"As Cork is a self-marshalling airport, we ask passengers to watch out for the A320 that is taking off as they're walking across the runway..."

Seriously, apart from the purchase costs, what would be the issue with the agricultural land next to the cargo area. It should still be relatively flat at that point.

I love the typical Cork weather in the photo.

As for B747s. I can only remember 2 landing at the airport ever. There was a Qantas charter a couple of years back. There was also a KLM flight from Aruba to Amsterdam that made an emergency landing at the airport.

An ATR with an airbridge is stupid,it takes about 3 steps to get on to an ATR!!!!!

there were 747's there before for the European Rugby cup finals when munster were involved,i remember a day where there was 9 charter flights including a 747,330,737's,all returned to cork that evening after the match,one after the other and went back to base again,was great!

DE-icing equipment is limited,do servisair even have that equipment??
Aer Lingus do for definite.

its not just agricultural land next to the cargo area,theres 2 of Everton FC soccer pitches and Redmonds hurling pitch,forget it.

Boeing 747s from Aer Lingus, Air Atlanta, European, Transwede, KLM and Qantas have visited Cork. Apart from the KL and QF most of the other visitors were flights either related to the Munster rugby campaign and charters to Tarbes for pilgrims to Lourdes. One day in the early 1970s a BOAC and a KLM 747 did some go arounds whilst on training details on a visit down from snn.

The airport owns the football pitches used by Everton AFC.

Today's announcement of 4 new routes by Ryanair from Shannon to MAN, MJV, CIA and WRO gives notice to Cork. It suggests Ryanair have little heart for mainland Europe flights from Cork in the year ahead? Ryanair and snn are just too close now. On the other hand it may also suggest that the Cork Airport Authority are not at the races at all in their negotiations with Ryanair? Dublin and Gatwick, indeed! How novel?

It will all end in tears?

Hmmm that is an interesting move by Ryanair, I wonder if CAA made the old terminal into a LCC terminal would Ryanair expand there, just a thought?

Is there a possibility to extend runway 25/07 and put better nav aids in place on this runway? This runway would be better suited to strong winds at cork that seem to cripple 35/17 ?

I agree witht he extension of 25/07 but its not on the cards,The CAA dont care if a few flight get delayed/diverted,Not possible to extend the runway at the 25 threshold because of the main kinsale road,and the 07 end has a road also and i think theres houses out that way,they might own everton pitch but certainly not redmonds.

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CAA are not an Independent Company. The DAA are calling the shots and they're noses are out of joint because of the overruns on the new terminal at Cork. Not a penny for aircraft stands etc untill the debt issue is resolved.

when is a handover due?? its a bit ridiculous calling it a cork airport authority when it's really cork airport authority controlled by dubs.CAA sponsored by DAA!!

loosing out yet again!!!!
 

CAA, FAA, DAA, FAI,ICWA,......................
Call them what we bloody well like but agian cork has missed out on new routes. Ryanair announced 4 more routes out of shannon today, manchester, wroclaw, rome, murcia.. all be it at the expence of two existing ryanair routes up there but surlely this was yet again an example of us lot missing the boat. We are certainly short of cover on the manchester route and now would be a perfect time for ryanair to come in and take it for them selves. its sickening really. the place seems to be stuck on pause since mr smith left. i fear for the place really i do. if we get stung for the cost of the new terminal things will be dire .. please get out there and battle for these routes that are there for the taking shannon certainly seem to be good at it????

I see that a €50m campaign is being launched in order to attract more overseas visitors. Couldn't cork be allocated some of this money and bring in some US visitors. I know countless that would use ork over snn any day.

Last week or the week before a body speaking on behalf of Irish hotels were calling on the Irish government to make Euro 10 million a year available to attract business to the areas around snn, presumably in a post stopover type scenario.

There is a general election due in 2007 if not before so if the FFers give in to the millions of Euro request Cork can forget about the North Atlantic for a long time.

And anyway, if snn gets euros Cork will get only pennies.

Sad but true.

Hmmmm, When is CAA going to break away from DAA? Can cork get its act together then?

Cork AA have been talking consistently to Continental about direct Cork to New York services. This can be done technically on the exisiting Cork runway using one of the hh rated 757 units that CO have.

Cork has a slightly longer runway than Bristol which has the same EWR service. The BRS service has done really well with very high yield and loads. Check the CAA.

The problem Cork has is all this doubt over US airlines and the Shannon stopover. Also Cork weather is an issue for CO. Fog and TA - not a good mix.

Can Cork match the free deals at Shannon - well that is another question. Rumour has it that CO are technically overnighting a plane at SNN in summer 2006. Will this give them a similar deal to Ryanair at Shannon. Will CO be paying 50 cent per pax at SNN for their extra flts in '06?

Ryanair hiring rapidly crew for ORK base and will go 5 a day Dublin in new year. Base will do DUB, STN and probably MAN or enhanced LPL service. Lubeck, Bergamo and Polish flts also in the mix. Cawley ready to announce. Will he sing the "Banks".

Yes cork 35/17 runway is approx 100m longer than bristols main runway. This would rule out the runway length being a problem at all for CO's 757.

From Nov 2006 there shouldn't be a problem at all with shannon as the stopover will offically be phased out?

So it really it boils down to the weather at cork, and it would appear that all of CO pilots doing TA flights would be certified to fly CAT II approaches. Also could they schedule the flight to arrive in at 11 am opposed to an early morning arrival, it seems that the fog usually is dissiapted by early afternoon??

Neidin , any other news about TA carriers , I would love to know what AA's plans are for expansion?

Cork Airport is too busy feeling sorry for itself with the previously mentioned cap of Euro 163 million imposed by the DAA for the new terminal let alone to be talkin' with Continental?

Let us get our head around this for a moment - if Cork with it's poor weather record cannot get a few more bob together to have two airbridges rather than the one why would Cork be talkin' with CO, FR? It is hard to see any kind of snn type deal being done in these circumstances? For the airlines it must come down to - Show me the money!!

Of course, the situation may be redeemable. The hapless gang at Cork could always go cap in hand to the wannabe Cork Taoiseach, Micheal Mairtin, Minister for Enterprise, no less(!) and Chriost Ri iarr dalta (past pupil for our English readers) and plead for a few extra poundeens for some corrugated iron for the 2nd airbridge etc.

If Minister Mairtin was from the wonderful world of the midwest rather than Cork you can bet that a deep path would have all ready been beaten to his ministerial door pleading, cajoling, begging, threatening etc for an extra little something to keep the 1960s dream going that when every airliner was going west across the North Atlantic they had to sometime end up at De Valera Field and it's nice, long runway at Rineanna.

Ah, shure, 'twould bring a tear to the eye and there they all were on TG4 on Sunday night.