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134brat 4th Jan 2022 11:32

Yes, in the case of Glasgow airport there were two good locations on the the doorstep where a station could have been built or a spur taken off.
l worked at Inverness when the current terminal was built and the question was asked as to why it was not located on the other side of the airfield close to both the A96 and existing railway but the new build went ahead right beside the old terminal site.

CabinCrewe 4th Jan 2022 12:21

So many GLA rail halt options. One of the busiest rail lines passes virtually at the bottom of 05, the St James Paisley spur, the Babcock /Braehead line. Where there (was) a will, there should have been a way. Monorails, pods from Gilmour St… all nonsense.

goldeneye 4th Jan 2022 16:25


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11165003)
So many GLA rail halt options. One of the busiest rail lines passes virtually at the bottom of 05, the St James Paisley spur, the Babcock /Braehead line. Where there (was) a will, there should have been a way. Monorails, pods from Gilmour St… all nonsense.

Exactly, build an airport station there and link it to the terminal with frequent busses or even a people mover like at BHX. Surely the most cost effective way to link the airport to the National Network, would be trains around every 15 mins most of the day to and from Glasgow Central, and connections changing at Paisley to Ayr etc.

Link Kilo 8th Jan 2022 07:54

An offshoot of a Swedish freight firm was the preferred bidder apparently (paywall):

https://www.scotsman.com/news/transp...rnment-3519784

CabinCrewe 8th Jan 2022 09:08


Originally Posted by Link Kilo (Post 11167039)
An offshoot of a Swedish freight firm was the preferred bidder apparently (paywall):

https://www.scotsman.com/news/transp...rnment-3519784

Might have been perfect. Keep it freight, logistics and maintenance, nothing more. Offshoot no marque bidder sounds a bit low rent.

N707ZS 9th Jan 2022 08:05

Stations take away carpark revenue so when you are operating a low-cost operation every penny counts. On the other hand they are useful to staff.

Asturias56 9th Jan 2022 08:57

But no-one goes there anyway - might as well have a station...............

YVRscot 19th Jan 2022 02:13

Taxiway Extension for Prestwick
 
I can't post urls, but this is the article from the UrbanRealm website reports a preplanning application for PIK

Prestwick Airport expansion to deliver a horizontal launch spaceport.

January 17, 2022

South Ayrshire Council has prepared a proposal of application notice (POAN) to expand Prestwick Airport to permit its use as a horizontal launch spaceport.
81.5 hectares of land at East Sanquhar Farm will accommodate a new taxiway, launch facility and services necessary for an aircraft

Prestwick Airport expansion to deliver a horizontal launch spaceport
January 17 2022
Prestwick Airport expansion to deliver a horizontal launch spaceport

South Ayrshire Council has prepared a proposal of application notice (POAN) to expand Prestwick Airport to permit its use as a horizontal launch spaceport.
81.5 hectares of land at East Sanquhar Farm will accommodate a new taxiway, launch facility and services necessary for an aircraft to lift a rocket above the Atlantic Ocean to deploy small satellites into orbit. Infrastructure will also be put in place to conduct microgravity and hypersonic flight services.
Joining more traditional vertical launch infrastructure at Shetland and Sutherland the Prestwick hub is being designed by Norr after £80m of funding was secured by the Ayrshire Growth Deal.
Peter Henderson, leader of South Ayrshire Council, said: "Prestwick Spaceport has achieved another milestone by filing a POAN for its development. This follows on from Prestwick Spaceport securing a launch provider, Astraius, in September last year."
Public consultation opens on 23 February with the hope that the first rocket could be launched by autumn 2023.

to lift a rocket above the Atlantic Ocean to deploy small satellites into orbit. Infrastructure will also be put in place to conduct microgravity and hypersonic flight services.
Joining more traditional vertical launch infrastructure at Shetland and Sutherland the Prestwick hub is being designed by Norr after £80m of funding was secured by the Ayrshire Growth Deal.
Peter Henderson, leader of South Ayrshire Council, said: "Prestwick Spaceport has achieved another milestone by filing a POAN for its development. This follows on from Prestwick Spaceport securing a launch provider, Astraius, in September last year."
Public consultation opens on 23 February with the hope that the first rocket could be launched by autumn 2023.

ninja-lewis 22nd Jan 2022 13:10

Latest parliamentary update on the failed sale process:
https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-...13P749C2372890


Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con)

The preferred bidder withdrew their initial bid because of the omission from the Prestwick airport sales prospectus of the state of the runway. On resubmission of their bid, taking that initial omitted information into account, they were so frustrated at the lack of any response from the Scottish Government that they had no option available to them but to approach me and ask me to personally give a hard copy of their bid to the Scottish Government"

CabinCrewe 22nd Jan 2022 13:18


Originally Posted by ninja-lewis (Post 11173671)
Latest parliamentary update on the failed sale process:
https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-...13P749C2372890

What a farce. As is any hopes of a major Spaceport. Who has finances for a long runway refurb?

mwm991 23rd Jan 2022 09:55


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11173676)
What a farce. As is any hopes of a major Spaceport. Who has finances for a long runway refurb?

Us, the tax payer. New terminal as well.

134brat 23rd Jan 2022 10:27

Just another business farce in a long line of farces. See also: BiFab, Ferguson Marine, Bourse Scot and more.
For spectacular legal money wasting see also: The named persons act, Spiteful action against Rangers FC, Alex Salmond trial.

Individuals and news media shy away from mentioning this stuff because of the inevitable pile-on by those who refuse to see things in anything other than a political context, regardless of how self evident our leaders incompetence is.

Link Kilo 24th Feb 2022 10:13


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11102432)
Rumours of huge investment from one of the current based aerospace industries in the next few years… on a knife edge and unrelated to actual airport/terminal ownership

Can we assume that since, to the best of my knowledge, no such investment has been forthcoming, that they fell off the wrong side of the knife?

In other news, a public consultation event was held yesterday in advance of the planning application for the horizontal launch facility. Consultation information here:
https://www.glasgowprestwick.com/wp-...WEBSITE-v1.pdf

N707ZS 25th Feb 2022 07:46

Interesting to see Edinburgh rugby charter aircraft travelling south of the border to park at Newcastle.

willy wombat 25th Feb 2022 16:14

I don’t understand this. Why can’t they park on the old 31/13?

pikman747 25th Feb 2022 19:02

Because Edinburgh sold off their second runway for commercial development!

Skipness One Foxtrot 25th Feb 2022 19:56


Originally Posted by pikman747 (Post 11190418)
Because Edinburgh sold off their second runway for commercial development!

Who did they sell it off to?

davidjohnson6 25th Feb 2022 20:00

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news...l-new-22224711
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-fife-43594666

Monkton3 20th Mar 2022 06:23

Curious to note that the PIK website is still listing it's pax flight destinations for last year. No mention of Lanzarote which was introduced
last October. What exactly are the Airport' Management' doing apart from soaking up taxpayers cash?
With that level of Marketing support for Ryanair their only pax carrier, it can only be a matter of time until it becomes Prestwick Aerodrome.
Or perhaps that's the grand plan? .

ScottishAviator 20th Mar 2022 12:34


Originally Posted by Monkton3 (Post 11202615)
Curious to note that the PIK website is still listing it's pax flight destinations for last year. No mention of Lanzarote which was introduced
last October. What exactly are the Airport' Management' doing apart from soaking up taxpayers cash?
With that level of Marketing support for Ryanair their only pax carrier, it can only be a matter of time until it becomes Prestwick Aerodrome.
Or perhaps that's the grand plan? .

I suspect Prestwick is Scotland's most cash generative airfield at the present time


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