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Skipness One Foxtrot 19th Mar 2023 23:28

I note you can walk to and exit the gate to the bridge for the railway line but it's exit only. Arrivals need to phone for a bus or walk along the pavement by the road? I guess this is because of local low level crime?
It's not ideal if you are unfamiliar or pressed for time.

BA318 20th Mar 2023 13:48


Originally Posted by Alteagod (Post 11404988)
I think LH need to have a word with themselves about there prices. Seem very steep but at least they operating over winter.

If it just went on sale it could be only high fares loaded at the moment which is common when a flight just goes on sale. Otherwise it's probably a good sign that demand is high enough to charge those prices.

mart901 20th Mar 2023 17:20

BHX going up to 5x daily from July

OltonPete 20th Mar 2023 19:44

BHX
 

Originally Posted by mart901 (Post 11405531)
BHX going up to 5x daily from July

Yes disappointing about the delay but I assume it is waiting for available aircraft. I doubt they would have taken many bookings for the period from 28 April until the end of June as the 5th service was only on sale since the beginning of March.

The BHX press release was quite clever, mentioning the 5th service but it neglected to mention from what date and I assume they knew something was about to change.

Pete

fanrailuk 20th Mar 2023 22:15

MAN
 

fanrailuk 20th Mar 2023 22:16

LTN
 

EI-BUD 21st Mar 2023 05:42

easyJet have been quite clever in filling the gaps from BHD. The obvious gaps that Aer Lingus Regional might logically have filled, examples Liverpool and Bristol.

I would have been my guess that Gatwick can't about as a result of the incentive scheme that came about during covid. Beyond that I was surprised to see Manchester, Glasgow and Luton.

Given that many of the routes are less than daily (e.g. MAN/LTN at 1-3-5-7) make me wonder is this due to some offer by BHD in desperation or a punishment by easyJet to BFS for attracting Ryanair in which goes live next week.

While it's good to see extra routes at any airport, the limited frequency suggests not going to add up to much while limits the potential for other carriers to come in. It would be real progress for the airport if they could attract easyJet to do a Paris or sun route, these could easily be achieved by doing a W from one of the UK hubs like LPL. I'd be quite sure BHD have tried

Flightrider 21st Mar 2023 07:04

It is such a shame that BHD are so hell-bent on chasing short-term recovery in passenger volumes that they are unable to see the likely long-term consequences of this. A very limited easyJet offering still has the effect of depressing average fares and passenger volumes across competing operators' routes at BHD, enabling easyJet to effectively control the entire Belfast market whilst keeping the core of its operation at Belfast International. It is short-sighted in the extreme for BHD to play along with that agenda, of which the airport management appears unable to comprehend the probable consequences.

SWBKCB 21st Mar 2023 08:01

This presumes BHD are offering EZY incentives in some form? If not, then EZY can just rock up and operate the services that make sense for them.

BHD2BFS 21st Mar 2023 10:04

Friday evenings in the summer will be interesting when they have 3 aircraft on the ground at the same time around 16:30. Does the airport have space ?

True Blue 21st Mar 2023 13:40

So Ezy to base an aircraft at Bhd from late June. I think the wonderful easy to get through airport is about to disappear for something a lot more crowded.

GSM763 21st Mar 2023 14:08


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 11406023)
So Ezy to base an aircraft at Bhd from late June. I think the wonderful easy to get through airport is about to disappear for something a lot more crowded.

Are they? The MAN flights look like a w-pattern on an LTN based aircraft, rather than a BHD based plane.

True Blue 21st Mar 2023 14:25

Check the app to Lgw from late June.

EI-BUD 21st Mar 2023 14:29


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11405844)
This presumes BHD are offering EZY incentives in some form? If not, then EZY can just rock up and operate the services that make sense for them.

They'd most likely have to get some inventions and to be fair easyJet are in a string bargaining position. Likelihood is that they are on a volume discount at BFS. Genuine x no. of pax and get y discount. So shifting capacity to BHD that BFS could have enjoyed would be detrimental to achieving their targets/ volume discounts at BFS.
My bet would be that they've been handsomely compensated by BHD...

EI-BUD 21st Mar 2023 14:33


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 11406042)
Check the app to Lgw from late June.

Well spotted Trueblue. I note that the flights are marked as sold out. There is no commercial sense for easyJet having an Airbus parked from 21:30 at night at BHD, in summer especially doing a flight say from Gatwick to a sun spot , returning much later will be far more commercially attractive. If this is true, relations may be poor at BFS ..

True Blue 21st Mar 2023 18:44

Ezy already quite a number of flights that ran late and broke the curfew, will be a lot worse when this increase in flights gets going.

Stormonttrooper 21st Mar 2023 20:36


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 11406142)
Ezy already quite a number of flights that ran late and broke the curfew, will be a lot worse when this increase in flights gets going.

Broke the curfew ?
Which one ?

mart901 21st Mar 2023 21:42


Originally Posted by EI-BUD (Post 11406046)
Well spotted Trueblue. I note that the flights are marked as sold out. There is no commercial sense for easyJet having an Airbus parked from 21:30 at night at BHD, in summer especially doing a flight say from Gatwick to a sun spot , returning much later will be far more commercially attractive. If this is true, relations may be poor at BFS ..

The commercial sense is the rich pickings of business passengers that will yes use LGW over say STN or LTN. With EI and BE gone from LHR there's a gap there imao

EI-BUD 21st Mar 2023 23:37

Mart901,
I've no doubt this connection will do very well. My point is they are forfeiting a daily rotation on an aircraft so that they can operate a BHD 0700 service. If they could depart earlier and arrive later it would make sense. Average fares on such a route in peak summer wouldnt touch a route like Palma, Faro, or Greek island which could be arriving back as late as midnight.

I've seen examples where Ryanair are getting a 737 flying from 05:45 to 01:15 the following morning. That's nearly a 20 hour day. This example at BHD is 14 hours. For this reason no low cost airline will make a base until the opening hours are revisited. On the flip side, I'm guessing they can tap into the locally based crew rather than do an overnighter.

exchanged_gorilla 21st Mar 2023 23:54


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 11406023)
So Ezy to base an aircraft at Bhd from late June. I think the wonderful easy to get through airport is about to disappear for something a lot more crowded.

Looks like a LGW-based aircraft nightstopping at BHD each night - a bit like they do in INV, MAD, and a few other places.


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