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shoe shine 23rd Sep 2021 13:38

Why are there any questions about EasyJet's permanence at BHD, who ever suggested the BHD - LGW was a temporary measures? I am hearing that we could see more services from BHD though cant establish if it's more Gatwick rotations or other routes.

Alteagod 23rd Sep 2021 15:12

MAN has been mentioned as possible EZY route from BHD. Not heard chat of anything else

DUB19 23rd Sep 2021 23:12

Aer Lingus look to be increasing EDI up to 11x weekly for the winter.
MAN also increased to 2x Daily.

biddedout 24th Sep 2021 07:25

How are they managing to operate UK domestic routes with EI registered aircraft? I could be missing something but their website suggests that they are operating BHD - MAN, BHX etc with EI A320's.

Cozy F 24th Sep 2021 12:48

Indeed - all very strange indeed. Particularly as this issue of appropriate registering of aircraft was the very issue which Ryanair had a spat with the UK authorities about around the start of the year!

Alteagod 24th Sep 2021 12:59

Possibly like Brexit Northern Ireland has some kind of Aviation protocol in place as well covering EU registered aircraft and airlines.

mart901 24th Sep 2021 13:25

Are they operating them on behalf of BA?

Downwind_Left 24th Sep 2021 13:44

Legally now they could probably operate them on behalf of Aer Lingus UK…

Cozy F]Indeed

I believe the issue with Ryanair was scale, they wanted single token aircraft on their UK AOC and then have all the other UK Domestic and UK Non-EU flights operated by wet-leased aircraft running to hundreds of flights a week. The Secretary of Sate can, and will, approve temporary waivers, for short-term capacity, but the type of operation planned for Ryanair UK was way outside this scope.

biddedout 24th Sep 2021 13:47

Only the routes being operated by CCFE seem code-shared with BA. The BHD - EDI / MAN / BHX appear to be Aer Lingus only and are not bookable on the BA website. These three routes appear to be UK domestics operated by a third country airline and this doesn't seem to fit within the TCA agreement with the EU.

mart901 24th Sep 2021 16:38

My understanding was Stobart operated EIR routes on behalf of BA to get around this - I'm thinking this would be a temporary continuation as a rescue?

mart901 28th Sep 2021 19:22

LGW with U2 on sale up to 06/02/22.

BHX with EI showing off sale from NOV, not surprisingly in a way.


buzz_hornet 28th Sep 2021 21:16

Looks like cityflyer are replacing EI

mart901 29th Sep 2021 15:43

https://www.belfastcityairport.com/n...ster-Edinburgh

EI-BUD 29th Sep 2021 22:17

EasyJet
 
Very respectable traffic on easyJet's LGW route for August. 20,439 pax in the month. That would look like 164 pax per flight (based on 2 flights each way daily). Assuming 180 seat 320 on each flight, a load factor of 91%. There didn't seem to be particularly low on pricinh, so I'm guessing the result will be satisfactory to them. 12k was the number for August, but that wasn't a full month from memory.

Alteagod 30th Sep 2021 13:22

VY shifting up to BFS to operate to ORY from November

True Blue 17th Nov 2021 12:18

With Flybe Mk2 announcing their return to the skies today from early next year and the expectation that Bhd will be on their radar, how does Bhd manage their relationship with EI and EI regional going forward, considering EI has done so much to restore business to Bhd over the past few months? Would it not be natural for EI to feel a bit miffed should Flybe be welcomed back to compete on the same routes?

OneBellEnd 17th Nov 2021 17:00

Potentially interesting times with IAG re-appearing again back up the road at BFS with Vueling flights. Could open up the channel for an Aer Lingus return from there too!

brian_dromey 18th Nov 2021 07:37

True Blue

Depends how you define ‘welcomed back’, doesn’t it? Would flyBe Mk2 be competing on EI/BA served routes, or on routes which are served by other airlines, or not served at all? I don’t know if new airlines would be eligible for discounted handling or other route supports, but these are generally not available if the route is already served. So while EI might not be thrilled about it, they probably wont have much cause for complaint either.

True Blue 18th Nov 2021 08:59

Since they have announced Bhx as their first base, it would be surprising if Bhd was not on their list of routes. Obviously, I have no idea, but it is interesting, if they start Bhx-Bhd, do both operators stay on the route, or is one forced off? I cannot imagine them using Bfs. I suppose time will tell.

escaped.atco 18th Nov 2021 17:18

I see EasyJet are keeping the BHD LGW going next season as well, wonder will we see more orange tails as time goes on?


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