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VLCfkight 5th May 2022 12:56

And with BREXIT, many valued and experienced staff will have gone home and are very unlikely to return with the hostile environment that seems to be the current government's main obsession.

SWBKCB 6th May 2022 12:15


TUI has issued a warning to passengers about its food service over the coming days. In a statement, the holiday firm said there will be 'no hot and cold meals or sandwiches' available on board its short and mid-haul flights.

"We can confirm that unfortunately due to staff shortages with our catering supplier, there will be no hot and cold meals or sandwiches, and a limited offering of snacks and drinks, available onboard TUI Airways short- and mid-haul flights over the coming days. This will impact flights from the following airports: Birmingham, Bristol, Cardiff, Doncaster Sheffield, Dublin, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Exeter, Glasgow, Humberside, Leeds Bradford, Luton, Norwich and Teesside.
The full article from the MEN says Manchester is affected, but then MAN isn't in the list above, nor is LGW, STN, NCL.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...rvice-23881515

VickersVicount 6th May 2022 13:30

poor old TUI punters…. queues at UK, queues at EU borders and now no sandwiches onboard! whatever next. Maybe just don’t bother.
One wonders how other carriers inflight catering seems unaffected?

Kakpipe Cosmonaut 6th May 2022 14:49


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11226129)
poor old TUI punters…. queues at UK, queues at EU borders and now no sandwiches onboard! whatever next. Maybe just don’t bother.
One wonders how other carriers inflight catering seems unaffected?

They’re not. Just ask Easyjet for starters

OzzyOzBorn 6th May 2022 19:42


Originally Posted by VLCfkight (Post 11225501)
And with BREXIT, many valued and experienced staff will have gone home and are very unlikely to return with the hostile environment that seems to be the current government's main obsession.

The UK approved right to remain for over six million EU citizens under the registration scheme which followed Brexit. This was more than twice the number anticipated. There was no hostile environment towards them; they were and are valued members of our society.

What you’re conveniently overlooking (in order to place all blame on Brexit) is the unfortunate reality of Covid-19 which effectively shut down the majority of our airports business for two years. UK and EU workers alike faced redundancy, though alternative employment opportunities did arise in a number of other sectors. Sectors offering more stability and often more sociable hours than aviation. Why would they ditch those new jobs and return to 3am starts in the volatile world of commercial aviation at close to minimum wage? This is the real problem, but some prefer to blame Brexit for every challenge which arises.

jethro15 6th May 2022 19:46

OzzyOzBourne - Very well put. Respect

ZULUBOY 6th May 2022 21:20


Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn (Post 11226249)
The UK approved right to remain for over six million EU citizens under the registration scheme which followed Brexit. This was more than twice the number anticipated. There was no hostile environment towards them; they were and are valued members of our society.

What you’re conveniently overlooking (in order to place all blame on Brexit) is the unfortunate reality of Covid-19 which effectively shut down the majority of our airports business for two years. UK and EU workers alike faced redundancy, though alternative employment opportunities did arise in a number of other sectors. Sectors offering more stability and often more sociable hours than aviation. Why would they ditch those new jobs and return to 3am starts in the volatile world of commercial aviation at close to minimum wage? This is the real problem, but some prefer to blame Brexit for every challenge which arises.

Has TUI issued the same warnings at the EU airports it operates from which would also have been affected by Covid and workers moving to more sociable jobs?

OzzyOzBorn 6th May 2022 21:29


Originally Posted by ZULUBOY (Post 11226288)
Has TUI issued the same warnings at the EU airports it operates from which would also have been affected by Covid and workers moving to more sociable jobs?

Continental airports and airlines are enduring the full range of issues arising from C-19, though many did enjoy government financial support far beyond what was made available in the UK. As for what travel advice TUI has issued in other countries … no idea. Though EasyJet did advise me to get to Copenhagen and Berlin Airports three hours in advance of my flights last week.

xanda_man 10th May 2022 08:52

Are TUI / 6Y having a bit of trouble with the ACMI cover up in DSA? Seems that ES-SAM is consistently late off the blocks. Sometimes it's marginal but there are song long delays in there for pax. Or is this issues at DSA and the start of the season?

wanna 11th May 2022 08:35


Originally Posted by ZULUBOY (Post 11226288)
Has TUI issued the same warnings at the EU airports it operates from which would also have been affected by Covid and workers moving to more sociable jobs?

The labour crisis is certainly European wide if not further and not just restricted to aviation but does seem to follow the footsteps of low paid and demanding work. The hospitality industry is notable in the U.K. The French are struggling with HGV drivers (as was the U.K). The Dutch struggling with airport works the same as the U.K. BREXIT will have contributed to being able to access a large talent pool but certainly isn't the main reason. It almost as if people have just vanished... after a pandemic.

SJL26779 11th May 2022 13:41


Originally Posted by xanda_man (Post 11227867)
Are TUI / 6Y having a bit of trouble with the ACMI cover up in DSA? Seems that ES-SAM is consistently late off the blocks. Sometimes it's marginal but there are song long delays in there for pax. Or is this issues at DSA and the start of the season?

The DUB based aircraft has been having similar delays I believe (ES-SAZ)

Smartlynx have had a few delays in previous years when Thomas Cook used to lease them.

ZenAutomaton 11th May 2022 17:27

Looks like my 788 BHX-TFS on Friday morning is now an AirTanker A330.

davidjpowell 11th May 2022 20:13

Any ideas about what happened to the Man-Melbourne flight yesterday? The airframe they eventually used flew from Birmingham to Newcastle, before positioning again to Manchester... Left about 8 hours late.

LiamNCL 11th May 2022 20:20


Originally Posted by davidjpowell (Post 11228791)
Any ideas about what happened to the Man-Melbourne flight yesterday? The airframe they eventually used flew from Birmingham to Newcastle, before positioning again to Manchester... Left about 8 hours late.

Flew to NCL to pick up luggage left behind on the NCL MLB Monday flight due to TUI not stocking enough containers so some peoples luggage was left behind.

davidjpowell 11th May 2022 20:54


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 11228794)
Flew to NCL to pick up luggage left behind on the NCL MLB Monday flight due to TUI not stocking enough containers so some peoples luggage was left behind.

Ouch. That is an expensive mistake!

OltonPete 11th May 2022 22:25

Air Tanker
 

Originally Posted by ZenAutomaton (Post 11228718)
Looks like my 788 BHX-TFS on Friday morning is now an AirTanker A330.

Should be as FR24 is already showing this tonight. Landed tonight from Brize and rumoured to be operating for a couple of weeks mainly at BHX.

Pete

SJL26779 11th May 2022 22:34


Originally Posted by ZenAutomaton (Post 11228718)
Looks like my 788 BHX-TFS on Friday morning is now an AirTanker A330.

It definitely is. TUI shows this ACMI information when checking a dummy flight: Flight operated by Air Tanker on behalf of Tui Airways with Air Tanker cabin crew and TUI liaison crew.

Jersey32D 12th May 2022 08:30

A Euro Atlantic 767 positioned to BRS last night to operate the BRS - PFO this afternoon.... Approximately 24hrs delayed!

WHBM 12th May 2022 08:40


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11226129)
poor old TUI punters…. queues at UK, queues at EU borders and now no sandwiches onboard! whatever next. Maybe just don’t bother.
One wonders how other carriers inflight catering seems unaffected?

One wonders also what was to stop TUI local management raiding the local M&S etc for trayfulls of sandwiches, to hand out on the flight.

Before anyone laughs, this was exactly what happened on a US carrier, actually out of Gatwick, when there was a sudden caterers' strike some years ago. Apologies at check-in, but loads of interesting things loaded on board. Something tells me that "budgets" has got in the way of being proactive.

And I can't see Jet2 just standing idly by while their contracted caterers let them down. Can you ?

LTNman 12th May 2022 09:16

Luton hasn’t even got a company based at the airport offering airline meals anymore. The business model collapsed when the LLC took over.


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