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Vokes55 18th Dec 2021 13:33

Yeah, I’m not sure Israel, a country with consistently one of the tightest borders throughout the whole pandemic, banning foreign visitors is going to put people off booking holidays to Cancun or Jamaica.

ATNotts 18th Dec 2021 14:13


Originally Posted by The Flying Stool (Post 11157812)
Well known for its Ski resorts.

Ski resorts weren't referenced in the post to which I was responding.

davidjohnson6 18th Dec 2021 14:14

It should be rembered that TUI is in the business of selling dreams and is deeply dependent on consumer confidence to make advance bookings. Time from booking to flight has fallen significantly since March last year - people are not booking 6 months ahead like they used to. This is not Tesco where the gap between handing over cash and getting a receipt to be able to take food out the shop is achieved in 30 seconds with very little to go wrong

The fact that France has told UK residents 2 days ago they are not welcome, and that the UK is prone to introducing a red list at such short notice that finding a flight home without quarantine is very very expensive will scare a lot of people from booking flights. Furthermore, if you can't get a negative test no later than 2 days before your flight home means you can't fly home. Google FUD - Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Noises about Plan C in the news, possibly being announced in the next few days will not help consumer confidence

I am not booking anything unless a) I can afford to lose the money, and b) I fly home no later than 2 days after I left the UK so I can definitely get a negative test before leaving the UK.

New and last minute flight booking for a week's package holiday on long haul have presumably taken a bit of a tumble. This *will* have implications for the number of flights that TUI and other airlines operate.... unless of course TUI wants to burn cash even faster than they are already - £5m per day of losses was the last figure I saw

Cuillin Hills 18th Dec 2021 16:10

Spain insisting on all over-12s being double vaccinated has meant a large number of families not able to travel to Spain, as a family, and delaying or cancelling their break over the Christmas and New Year period.

daz211 18th Dec 2021 16:11

Jet2 have started combining flights due to passenger loads.
Todays STN-ACE routed STN-FUE-ACE / FUE-ACE-STN so loads must be very low on all winters sun flights inc TUI.

BHX5DME 18th Dec 2021 16:45


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 11157873)
Jet2 have started combining flights due to passenger loads.
Todays STN-ACE routed STN-FUE-ACE / FUE-ACE-STN so loads must be very low on all winters sun flights inc TUI.

BHX ACE & FUE were also combined today, I would expect a lot more of this after Christmas and into the New Year

daz211 18th Dec 2021 17:41

Sorry does anyone know how I can see seat plans / aircraft type for TUI flights.
Im sure someone on here said you can on the TUI app but I have tried that with no luck.

Smudge's Lot 19th Dec 2021 09:55

Can we stick to TUI news please?

dmouse88 19th Dec 2021 13:20


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 11157900)
Sorry does anyone know how I can see seat plans / aircraft type for TUI flights.
Im sure someone on here said you can on the TUI app but I have tried that with no luck.

If you know the flight number go to Flightmapper.net use TOM flight number it should show you itenary and airframe type.

daz211 19th Dec 2021 13:52


Originally Posted by dmouse88 (Post 11158242)
If you know the flight number go to Flightmapper.net use TOM flight number it should show you itenary and airframe type.

thank you very helpful ☝️

Smudge's Lot 23rd Dec 2021 11:50

SE-RFZ (ex TUIK) is now estimated to be repaired by the end of Jan 22!!!

AlexKitch 23rd Dec 2021 12:26

Does anybody know why G-OBYG is EOL instead of freighter conversion?

BOHEuropean 23rd Dec 2021 13:05


Originally Posted by Smudge's Lot (Post 11160052)
SE-RFZ (ex TUIK) is now estimated to be repaired by the end of Jan 22!!!

What happened to it in Arlanda? I see it's not flown since 18th October

speedrestriction 24th Dec 2021 06:05


Originally Posted by BOHEuropean (Post 11160085)
What happened to it in Arlanda? I see it's not flown since 18th October

In the aviation equivalent of Rock, Paper, Scissors it would appear that Steel beats Carbon Fibre.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....66121c784.jpeg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7d1e6f9a6.jpeg

Not an easy fix.

VickersVicount 24th Dec 2021 07:46

My alert level with TUI generally has just gone up a notch… a reasonable number of ‘operational’ incidents and events over past few months which I haven’t previously been aware of.

speedrestriction 24th Dec 2021 09:01

To be fair to TUI, a ground handler driving a catering truck into the side of the aircraft is something that can happen any time and anywhere - just bad luck. CF repair is a more complex affair than on more traditional build methods.

Smudge's Lot 24th Dec 2021 09:11


Originally Posted by AlexKitch (Post 11160068)
Does anybody know why G-OBYG is EOL instead of freighter conversion?

It's not TUI's responsibility to turn it into a freighter, it's only duty is to return it to the Lessor in a fit state.

speedrestriction 24th Dec 2021 09:15


Originally Posted by Smudge's Lot (Post 11160439)
It's not TUI's responsibility to turn it into a freighter, it's only duty is to return it to the Lessor in a fit state.

A few years ago a friend of mine ferried a 9 year old A319 to the US to be parted out - more demand for parts at that time than second hand minibuses. Lots of different economic considerations (cost of conversion, value parted out, cost of routine maintenance etc) to be balanced as a pax aircraft reaches the end of its airline life.

GBYAJ 29th Dec 2021 08:46

737 max
 
I’ve noticed on FR24 the 737-Max’s are now operating more from Glasgow and Newcastle instead of the usual 737/800’s. Anyone know if this is a permanent switch or just keeping them busy over the winter?

ROC10 29th Dec 2021 12:06


Originally Posted by GBYAJ (Post 11162012)
I’ve noticed on FR24 the 737-Max’s are now operating more from Glasgow and Newcastle instead of the usual 737/800’s. Anyone know if this is a permanent switch or just keeping them busy over the winter?

GLA, CWL, NCL and DSA have recently switched from being 1x738 to 1x7M8. It makes sense particularly for GLA and NCL due to their more northerly positions meaning most flights are a bit longer than from other bases.


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