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BHX5DME 25th Aug 2022 08:18


Originally Posted by sunday8pm (Post 11284749)
Palermo, Catania and Lamezia showing as possible destinations from EMA in the Ryanair app. Is there a reason for this? All other routes in the app from EMA are currently operated.

Possibly all via Venice

davidjohnson6 31st Aug 2022 20:51

I've noticed that on recent flights with FR from the UK, Ryanair always seems kind enough to ensure that I never pay Govt taxes.
It seems unlikely that FR has been overwhelmed with a sense of sudden generosity.... is this perhaps the new ruse to ensure that pax cannot claim back any APD on flights when they did not fly ?
Not forgetting of course the tax refund admin fee which was more than the value of the tax...

Sharklet_321 2nd Sep 2022 08:13

Rumour doing the rounds of a 2nd based aircraft for BOH next year with routes to: BFS, EDI, GLA, FNC, SVQ, BCN

SWBKCB 2nd Sep 2022 10:53

Wouldn't that need a Ryanair UK a/c?

GAZMO 2nd Sep 2022 15:33

I thought they had one. If not would need one for next year as starting 12 routes from BFS in March 2023, including 4 domestic STN EDI EMA MAN

FRatSTN 2nd Sep 2022 15:42

Ryanair has already re-registered several aircraft to the various different AOCs depending on their growth allocation. Many of the new MAX's orginally destined for Ryanair DAC were re-registered to Malta Air before they were even delivered! It would be relatively straight forward in theory for Ryanair to source aircraft for the UK register to aid domestic growth.

Seljuk22 3rd Sep 2022 07:23

Athens base will be closed during winter period.
https://news.gtp.gr/2022/09/01/ryana...rt-for-winter/

Skipness One Foxtrot 22nd Sep 2022 02:04

Ryanair have four airlines flying as "Ryanair" across Europe, I know why Ryanair UK is flying UK to non EU, but what is the logic that says whether a continental base is Ryanair, Ryanair Sun/Buzz or Malta Air?

For example, Billund in Denmark has Buzz operated bases aircraft. Any rules and rationale?

chaps1954 22nd Sep 2022 11:32

Ryanair UK flies many routes not just non EU from both Manchester and Stansted.

Skipness One Foxtrot 22nd Sep 2022 15:32


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 11300729)
Ryanair UK flies many routes not just non EU from both Manchester and Stansted.

I know, but the reason they exist at all is to fly UK to non EU.

PAXboy 22nd Sep 2022 18:29


but the reason they exist at all is to ...
... make as much money as possible!:p They look for openings and then, when they want, they close them. They are very smart people.

AirportPlanner1 22nd Sep 2022 21:59


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 11300954)
... make as much money as possible!:p They look for openings and then, when they want, they close them. They are very smart people.

That’s true of most bases, routes and the subsidiaries but there’s no getting away from FR UK being a necessity rather than a smart money making/cost saving scheme. It’s actually sort of the opposite, a bit of additional bureaucracy and hassle they don’t ideally want.

Having a UK operation opens up Turkey as a new large opportunity but thus far it doesn’t seem something they’re immediately exploiting.

SWBKCB 23rd Sep 2022 05:50


Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot (Post 11300865)
I know, but the reason they exist at all is to fly UK to non EU.

Also UK domestic flights?

davidjohnson6 23rd Sep 2022 11:25

Would anyone be able to give an indication as to when the summer 2023 will be at least 95% publicly visible ?
I'm interested in analysing to see what routes changes there are between S22 and S23

Skipness One Foxtrot 23rd Sep 2022 11:38


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11301160)
Also UK domestic flights?

Quite right!

RA85684 23rd Sep 2022 13:34

I find it interesting that some UK - non EU flights are able to be operated with EI- registered aircraft. EI-HEN operating the RK514 (FR UK flight number) Edinburgh - Marrakech twice this week. Technically EDI-TFS which it is operating right now is also UK - non EU.
Also EI-HGM operated Stansted - Rabat on 20/09

I take it we'll be seeing G-* aircraft based at Belfast come March?

Skipness One Foxtrot 23rd Sep 2022 15:51

I think the CAA allows exceptions up to a point but Ryanair had to be dragged kicking and screaming into having a UK AOC at all. I suspect they'll push and push the rules on this....

tartan 201 23rd Sep 2022 16:33


Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot (Post 11300504)
Ryanair have four airlines flying as "Ryanair" across Europe, I know why Ryanair UK is flying UK to non EU, but what is the logic that says whether a continental base is Ryanair, Ryanair Sun/Buzz or Malta Air?

For example, Billund in Denmark has Buzz operated bases aircraft. Any rules and rationale?

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This article might shed light on their rationale:

https://www.economist.com/gulliver/2...hide-its-brand

SWBKCB 23rd Sep 2022 18:58

How many Buzz and Malta a/c are flying around in those colours rather than RYR - even the new-builds? Lauda are different because their colours were inherited

Skipness One Foxtrot 23rd Sep 2022 19:18

Malta Air 6/28
Buzz 8/13


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