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EGNXROB 18th Oct 2021 19:55

The airport said they was in talks over a new contract and was positive a new deal will be reached and had already overcome some issues so you’d like to think a announcement will be made soon

EI-BUD 18th Oct 2021 23:07

My guess is in relation to EMA there is a wider piece to this in terms of MAG. Give us the deal we want and we'll continue EMA, or don't and we'll do a huge deal with BHX for the EMA aircraft etc etc. Given that STN is in the mix, there likely is a wider dimension.

Ryanair have never been in a stronger negotiating position than they are now.

ATNotts 19th Oct 2021 08:07

Well in the world of media spin you would hardly expect the airport to come out with something along the lines of "we are in tough negotiations with the airline, and be sure that we're more than willing to walk away if they are not prepared to pay a reasonable price to operate from here". To do so would ensure prospective passengers would give up waiting and book via another carrier, or from another airport.

inOban 19th Oct 2021 08:15

On the other hand MAG may have decided that the airport is nicely viable with AYR cargo services and seasonal passenger flights are not worth the hassle. If airlines want to pay realistic fees, then they're welcome. Remember that there will only be modest income from catering and other franchises.

ATNotts 19th Oct 2021 08:48

I am in no way party to the P+L accounts of EMA as part of MAG, but I reckon your analysis is spot on. It's not to say EMA doesn't want to keep Ryanair, but given the diverse nature of the airport's business model, which is almost unique in UK, they probably fell they are in a much stronger position than almost all other regional airports as the UK exists the Covid driven retrenchment of the last 18 months / 2 years. Ryanair probably aren't familiar with a situation where they are negotiating with equals, and probably don't like it.

Curious Pax 19th Oct 2021 09:01

Don’t forget MAG went through a similar loop with Ryanair at Manchester a few years ago. O’Leary took his toys away for a while, but have come back and then some.

davidjohnson6 19th Oct 2021 09:32

It should be remembered that Manchester is the dominant city in north west England. I don't believe EMA is the main airport for the dominant city in the midlands

If BHX can do a good-enough deal with FR, it may well be in Ryanair's long term interest to shift their flying slightly more in Birmingham's favour

ATNotts 19th Oct 2021 09:39

Whether it would be in the best interests of BHX may be altogether another question!

hec7or 19th Oct 2021 10:12

I would imagine Ryanair may be welcomed by BHX because of the loss of Flybe, Monarch and TCX.

pabely 19th Oct 2021 11:18

Not sure Jet2, Easyjet or TUI would agree!

DomyDom 19th Oct 2021 18:14

3 new twice weekly routes for Manchester:
Lviv, Ukraine
Warsaw Modlin
Wroclaw


Sioltach Dubh Glas 19th Oct 2021 19:26

Warsaw Modlin and Wroclaw are already served, but might be new for the winter.

EGNXROB 20th Oct 2021 21:30

East Midlands flights now on sale up until end of March.

EMACargo 21st Oct 2021 16:32

Dont think they are anymore

davidjohnson6 1st Nov 2021 21:22

Does Ryanair still adhere (largely) to a no-overbooking rule, or has thought been given to maybe doing it to a modest and non-trivial degree ? The only case I know of was max 6 pax in the morning on STN-DUB pre Covid when there were maybe 9 flights per day

I'm aware Easyjet has definitely and deliberately overbooked in the past and I got on a flight on more than 1 occasion only because of checked in pax not showing up at the gate. I've been on an overbooked Wizz flight once, but not sure if that was deliberate or just accident

I ask particularly because Covid has presumably led to a higher level of noshows because of pax getting last minute nerves about high levels of cases when travelling away from home

Note - I'm not looking for a discussion about whether overbooking should be legal or not - that topic has been discussed endlessly on the web already

EMACargo 2nd Nov 2021 03:22

Are there no based flights from Ryanair out of EMA today (Tuesday)
Is the base closing?

LTNman 2nd Nov 2021 05:40

Ryanair make more threats than the French and like the French it is always someone else’s fault.

EGNXROB 2nd Nov 2021 07:23

A majority of winter ops for Ryanair out of East Midlands mid week are operated by non based A/C.
All S22 flights out of East Midlands are now available up until end of October 22.

CCFAIRPORT 11th Nov 2021 06:00

New Routes FROM STOCKHOLM/ARLANDA

Skelleftea (03/12/2021)

All others begins March 2022

Béziers
Brindisi
Chania
Corfu
Lulea
Palma de M.
Poznan
Fiumicino
Venice
Visby
Wroclaw
Zadar

New destination : Orebro (Sweden)

London/STN to Orebro
Begins 28 March 2022
2pw

3 new routes from Turin

Agadir
Billund
Zadar

All begins March 2022

6 New routes from Billund

Bari
Ibiza
Madrid
Porto
Trapani
Turin

All Begins March 2022


3 new routes from London/LTN

Burgas
Catania
Lublin

All begins March/April 2022


New destination and new base : Funchal
10 New routes

Beauvais
Bergamo
Charleroi
Dublin
Lisbon
London/STN
Manchester
Marseille
Nuremberg
Porto

Liverpool-Charleroi (begins 27 March 2022)
Menorca-Charleroi (begins 29 March 2022)

Zadar to Birmingham
Zadar to Bournemouth
Zadar to Liverpool
Zadar to Nuremberg

All begins march 2022

Memmingen-Santiago/SCQ (begins 27 March 2022)
Palma-Cagliari
Palma-Poznan
Palma-Sofia
Shannon-Malta

3 new routes from Helsinki

Alicante
Girona
Venice

All begins March 2022

3 new routes from Charleroi

Brive
Catania
Kaunas

All begins March 2022

I think that Brive and Kaunas were, in the past, in the network for Charleroi

Marrakesh to Gran Canaria
Begins March 2022


French new routes for S22

Béziers - Stockholm
Bordeaux - Malta
Bordeaux - Zadar
Bergerac - Bournemouth
Beauvais - Funchal
Brive - Charleroi
Figari - rome FCO
Marseille - Venice VCE
Marseille - Funchal
Limoges - Marrakesh
Toulouse - Venice VCE



New routes from FIUMICINO for S22
Cuneo
Figari
Gran Canaria
Kefalonia
Menorca
Preveza
Stockholm Arng
Tangier


Warsaw/WMI to Trapani
2pw
Begins 27 March 2022

Poznan to Chania
2 pw
Begins 02 June 2022

FRatSTN 23rd Nov 2021 20:42

Also STN to Funchal, Maastricht, Menorca and Vaxjo.


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