Silkway that is sorry too early.
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Originally Posted by _aax1
(Post 11407618)
Unless they invest and find a USP, it will continue to be the sick man of London airports with solely Ryanair as its customer. |
Originally Posted by AircraftOperations
(Post 11407884)
Think you're underplaying the importance of Jet2 to STN and STN to Jet2.
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 11407498)
STN406 - would it ever be possible for MAG to apply a coat of paint to the walls (and perhaps put in arm rests on the benches so it doesn't feel like an area for the homeless to sleep) in the downstairs quiet seating area underneath itsu, and maybe also re-cover the cushions on some of the benches in the (general) departures area ? I know these get heavy wear-and-tear, but some parts of the airport feel distinctly scruffy
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Presumably the problem is that ryanair doesn't want to pay the level of fees which would fund this work .
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Latest ACL S23 report
So some interesting notes here
ITA with 1200 slots for FCO and LIN operation starting around 29 May 4 flights per day with 319/320 Royal Jordanian 2x p/w to AMM with 319 Turkmenistan there as is common knowledge but day 5 added with a 330 cargo aswell Royal Air Moroc a few slots TNG, 2x p/w with 320/737 max from 19 June sun air starting flights to MAN and GOT 3x pw with an FRJ https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrI...I0NWQwYjY3YiJ9 |
Interesting RoyaL air Moroc have slots at Stansted to start a tangier route, however they have just announced Gatwick so thats not happening.
ITA airways also have loads of slots but i doubt they will use them at Stansted. The Royal Jordanian one is very interesting however I think they will go to Gatwick too. It's sad to see! |
Remember Royal Air Maroc & Royal Jordan are part of One World so I doubt they would want to take any interlined traffic away from small potential there might be at LGW.
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All very interesting. Had Tunisair and Air Algerie last year so hearing some other regular LHR operators having slots is really good to hear.
I don’t agree with the statement that they would go LGW as they can interline due to oneworld. Just as an operator is in an alliance doesn’t mean they will interline or codeshare on every flight at another operators base. As all ways it will be a wait and see. I have seen ITA slots loaded on the flight display system for the summer holidays so could possibly happen but then again Air India slots were showing for this week up till a week ago. Sunair from GOT/MAN I see the most likely to happen. Have operated to CBG for a while on charters so it’s possible. |
Originally Posted by STN406
(Post 11410099)
All very interesting. Had Tunisair and Air Algerie last year so hearing some other regular LHR operators having slots is really good to hear.
I don’t agree with the statement that they would go LGW as they can interline due to oneworld. Just as an operator is in an alliance doesn’t mean they will interline or codeshare on every flight at another operators base. As all ways it will be a wait and see. I have seen ITA slots loaded on the flight display system for the summer holidays so could possibly happen but then again Air India slots were showing for this week up till a week ago. Sunair from GOT/MAN I see the most likely to happen. Have operated to CBG for a while on charters so it’s possible. Sun Air; doesn’t this operate from CBG for the pharmaceutical companies located near by? BA used to sell seats to GOT from CBG above the allocation taken up daily by said companies. I’m not up to speed on the recent goings on at CBG but perhaps their venture is coming to an end? |
I think, with Jet2 launching STN-FCO, I can see potential for ITA Airways to launch STN as a competitive response to LS, particularly if they wish to expand their London operations and presently cannot do so, due to slot limitations at LHR. In a way, I am surprised that FR haven't reacted to this already by launching their own STN-FCO service as a replacement of, or compliment to the existing STN-CIA route, considering that they have built up a large base at FCO
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EZY
With air travel now nearing pre-pandemic 2019 levels, what are the chances that EZY would re-open their former STN base? Granted, I know that they will be primarily focusing on maximising on LGW, which has always been their biggest UK base by far, and to a lesser extent, LTN. Would they ever expand beyond their 4 routes from STN? I fear that their peak at STN has been and gone, especially with LS having replaced them as the number 2 carrier at STN, but it would be nice to see some more variety.
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Originally Posted by JW95
(Post 11410272)
With air travel now nearing pre-pandemic 2019 levels, what are the chances that EZY would re-open their former STN base? Granted, I know that they will be primarily focusing on maximising on LGW, which has always been their biggest UK base by far, and to a lesser extent, LTN. Would they ever expand beyond their 4 routes from STN? I fear that their peak at STN has been and gone, especially with LS having replaced them as the number 2 carrier at STN, but it would be nice to see some more variety.
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Originally Posted by JW95
(Post 11410263)
I think, with Jet2 launching STN-FCO, I can see potential for ITA Airways to launch STN as a competitive response to LS, particularly if they wish to expand their London operations and presently cannot do so, due to slot limitations at LHR. In a way, I am surprised that FR haven't reacted to this already by launching their own STN-FCO service as a replacement of, or compliment to the existing STN-CIA route, considering that they have built up a large base at FCO
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 11410301)
Assuming Lufthansa will take over ITA... would a Stansted-Rome route be a priority from Lufthansa's point of view, given that none of LH, LX, OS or SN have routes to STN ? If you were an employee of ITA, would you sign off on opening a route to STN right now, or would you choose routes that would make you look good as an employee in Lufthansa's eyes ? Once LH take over ITA... management will likelt be looking for cost-saving synergies - ie cutting the number of employees
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11410303)
Presumably if a new route is to launched, it already has a sound business case?
Leader : "I have had a most brilliant idea and I need you to find some supporting data." Analyst : "There isn't much and it's not robust enough to support your business case." Leader : "Then I am truly a visionary. Proceed" Analyst ; Despairs (again) See flybe (original and zombie versions), Eastern, recent BA shenanigans. |
Originally Posted by JW95
(Post 11410272)
With air travel now nearing pre-pandemic 2019 levels, what are the chances that EZY would re-open their former STN base? Granted, I know that they will be primarily focusing on maximising on LGW, which has always been their biggest UK base by far, and to a lesser extent, LTN. Would they ever expand beyond their 4 routes from STN? I fear that their peak at STN has been and gone, especially with LS having replaced them as the number 2 carrier at STN, but it would be nice to see some more variety.
Only way it could happen is if either Ryanair or Jet2 cut back on based aircraft (unlikely) or additional capacity added which is still some years away. An increase in in-bound flying is the best they can do now. |
More of a chance of a SEN base now.
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Loganair appear to be leaving at the end of April as they have slots for LDY at LHR. This has been on the cards since BE collapsed.
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Turkmenistan airlines
So seems Turkmenistan airlines flights are now operating to Heathrow as opposed to stansted, wow that was really short lived , literally 1 flight before it got switched over T5421 now on its way to LHR
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