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Dannyboy39 12th Apr 2022 05:08


Originally Posted by The96er (Post 11213555)
Swissport at not the only one struggling. Menzies are now (temporarily) offering double pay overtime. Swissport have been offering triple pay overtime for some time now and added to the enivitable penalty clauses, it makes you wonder what their cash flow situation is like. Not too healthy I'm guessing.

Airlines with big operations like RYR and TUI really have no other options in the short term at least. There was talk of RYR going quasi-self handling similar to DHL with EZY pre covid but has all gone quiet since.

Well “Blue Handling” already exists at STN doesn’t it? I wouldn’t be surprised if RYR took it back in house, especially at their larger bases. Although the DHL tie up hasn’t been completely successful has it?

Dct_Mopas 12th Apr 2022 08:16


Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 (Post 11214044)
Well “Blue Handling” already exists at STN doesn’t it? I wouldn’t be surprised if RYR took it back in house, especially at their larger bases. Although the DHL tie up hasn’t been completely successful has it?

DHL has been good for ezy. They’re well organised and do a great job, definitely short of staff as well but the only big issues occur when passenger security delays in terminal delay flights. Without any spare staff then this causes knock on delays as staff are held up on earlier departures.

However, it’s rare to be let down by DHL and they’re well appreciated/ a great bunch of people. It’s the airport ambulift service or security that cause the biggest ezy delays.

zfw 12th Apr 2022 16:22


Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 11213793)
This isn't entirely accurate. Summer recruitment does begin within the Christmas period/with big recruitment days in January. However as you've alluded to the start dates/training dates don't begin until March/April. IN the time of someone been offered a job, they may of found a better job that's better paid and therefore give backward on the job they've been offered. Sometimes they treacle the new starters into the system to have a number for April/easter then have a different number for May onwards. Think what we all have to remember is Manchester has probably lost a number of staff in security and the same for Swissport due to the previous 2 years.

MAG has known since last Sept what the expected figures were going to be, they quoted about 24 million pax for this year. It turns out there are about 22 million seats available after the slots were handed back. As usual they were so cocky that there would be a flood of applicants for the prestigious positions that involve getting up at midnight to be in work for 2 in the morning all on minimum wage.
Attracting staff on these terms is proving difficult indeed there are no advantages or perks forthcoming from MAG to make working life attractive, parking is either one side or the other of the airport, requiring a bus journey into the airport adding an extra 20 minutes at the beginning or end of a shift, whereas they have ample parking in the mid stay car park at Terminal 3 for staff but choose to let passengers park here even though there are a multitude of new car parks with thousands of spaces.for them.And forget a subsidized staff canteen for the thousands that work here every day. Its Greggs or Boots.
Under the current tenure of Charlie Cornish MAG has turned into a once profitable forward thinking airport with no debts into one that owes about 3 billion pounds https://www.magairports.com/investor...OkM5rvGttkMqjI .
And the current pay offer for MAG Employees on the table is a 6.5 percent payrise after 3 years of no rise and a 10 per cent cut over the last 2 years, and a one off offer to buy MAG staff out of their yearly bonus which is usually about £700, the offer to buy you out £700.
The only way out of this is for the Airlines to start coughing up a decent amount for Handling Agents and Services, it is invariably going to mean higher costs for the travelling public but without it they will not get any staff.


Sioltach Dubh Glas 12th Apr 2022 16:29

It's a shame that Pprune doesn't have a "like" button. There have been a number of excellent posts recently but I don't want to clutter the thread with too many posts such as I'm just writing.
Anyway a big thanks to all who have added constructive comment. And to those whom I don't agree with, thank you for your viewpoint, there are always two sides to a discussion.

DomyDom 15th Apr 2022 16:08

MAN-INV
 
EZY starting Manchester - Inverness route × 2/week from July. On sale now 🙂.

planedrive 15th Apr 2022 18:29


Originally Posted by DomyDom (Post 11215909)
EZY starting Manchester - Inverness route × 2/week from July. On sale now 🙂.

2pw from the end of June and also increasing to 4pw from the end of July :ok: and also adding Chania (Crete) 2pw from the end of June.

Correspondence from Aurigny also states that they will be purely operating out of T3 from the 22nd of April, including check in and security so presumably that's when T3 will finally fully reopen!

DomyDom 16th Apr 2022 08:22


Originally Posted by planedrive (Post 11215952)
2pw from the end of June and also increasing to 4pw from the end of July :ok: and also adding Chania (Crete) 2pw from the end of June.

Correspondence from Aurigny also states that they will be purely operating out of T3 from the 22nd of April, including check in and security so presumably that's when T3 will finally fully reopen!

Thanks for the update planedrive 👍

SealinkBF 16th Apr 2022 11:17

And it continues...

Manchester: More Easter airport misery as queues reach the car park | Metro News

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b2d8f96f8b.jpg

AircraftOperations 16th Apr 2022 12:35

Confused as to where the news is here??? The airport have said that long queues 60-90 minutes will continue for a while longer yet, haven't they?
just because a queue is back to an external door, car park etc, doesn't necessarily mean that it is exceeding what has been flagged.

MANFOD 16th Apr 2022 13:46

The article does include this paragraph:
"Today’s queues are understood to have largely subsided by 7am with passengers reporting no issues getting through airport security by around 9am."

The headline also contrasts with yesterday's article:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...rport-23699508
But why post a more positive piece if there's a negative agenda to pursue?

With so many flights departing between 06.00 and 07.30, and thousands of passengers arriving early as instructed from 03.00 to 04.30, it's hardly surprising there will be long queues. The important factors are how many security channels are open to process passengers and how quickly the queues subside.

edit: Although the focus has been on security, there is of course the added complication of check-in delays. I'm assuming this morning's problems were primarily security.



SCFC1EP 16th Apr 2022 20:46

Looking at the pictures i would say that's check in problem, if people are to try to get through security with that much luggage we have even more serious problems
not saying theres no problems at security as we all know including myself be stuck there

MANFOD 16th Apr 2022 21:29


Originally Posted by SCFC1EP (Post 11216558)
Looking at the pictures i would say that's check in problem, if people are to try to get through security with that much luggage we have even more serious problems
not saying theres no problems at security as we all know including myself be stuck there

Fair point. I hadn't looked at the pictures closely enough. The situation at security does seem very variable depending on the time of day, staff available etc. Some passengers have reported only a relatively short time to get through in contrast to long delays last week and earlier.

WHBM 16th Apr 2022 21:34


Originally Posted by SCFC1EP (Post 11216558)
Looking at the pictures I would say that's check in problem, if people are to try to get through security with that much luggage we have even more serious problems

Surely exacerbated by parallel reports of gross baggage handling shortages leading to bags not being unloaded for hours, or not loaded at all, lackadaisical treatment of missing bag reports, and the bags only turning up the day you are returning.

When baggage handling starts to get treated as something that will be done "if we can", no wonder people want to have their bags with them as much as possible.

Asturias56 17th Apr 2022 08:24

"With so many flights departing between 06.00 and 07.30, and thousands of passengers arriving early as instructed from 03.00 to 04.30, it's hardly surprising there will be long queues. "

Surely if it's"hardly surprising" someone could actually staff up in anticipation? Why has it always got to be reactive action only?

42psi 17th Apr 2022 08:38


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11216723)
"With so many flights departing between 06.00 and 07.30, and thousands of passengers arriving early as instructed from 03.00 to 04.30, it's hardly surprising there will be long queues. "

Surely if it's"hardly surprising" someone could actually staff up in anticipation? Why has it always got to be reactive action only?

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Perhaps because a shortage of staff is why those people are being asked to turn up early.
If there were enough staff then they could turn up at the normal time and be processed normally.

Passengers are being asked to turn up early so that even with the queuing they'll still be able to depart at the scheduled time.

If you don't have enough staff in total you can't move the non existant staff to a different time frame.
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SWBKCB 19th Apr 2022 16:06


Manchester Airport's Terminal Three will fully reopen this week to meet demand which has led to huge queues, delays and misery for passengers over recent months. Terminal Three, which was closed during the pandemic, has been partially reopen since March 27 for some arriving passengers, but will reopen fully on Friday (April 22).

All passengers flying out with Aurigny, British Airways, Eastern Airways, Iberia Express, Loganair, Ryanair and Vueling will check in at the Terminal Three entrance. All arrivals into the airport with those airlines will also go through the Terminal Three building.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...-open-23722170

DomyDom 21st Apr 2022 22:14

Air Canada - Toronto
 
Air Canada 5 x weekly Manchester to Toronto from June. Business, Premium Economy and Economy seats on sale. First return by them to MAN since the start of the pandemic I understand. Excellent news! 😀👍
https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...toronto-route/

lfc84 22nd Apr 2022 21:57

Easyjet Manchester to Prague cancelled tonight

Tracker states:

"We’re sorry that your flight has been cancelled.

This is due to a foreign object on the runway causing your flight to have a technical issue."

seahawks 23rd Apr 2022 10:21

Engine ingested a stone on taxiway L during start up.

HOVIS 27th Apr 2022 13:23

STS have announced they will be taking over the old Thomas Cook hangar. Jobs for the boys!


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