Downwind_Left

To be honest there is a running theme where seemingly many things are not "worth their effort".

At the time the red list started it was stated that Manchester hotels weren’t keen to become quarantine hotels, so as stated why would MAN want to push it? Take your blinkers off and think it through. Any hotel that signs up is not going to be able to accommodate regular guests, and as England (hopefully) opens up, demand for hotels near airports will increase as travel increases. Heathrow has the luxury of volume, so a dozen people needing quarantine off each flight soon mounts up, but Manchester doesn’t have that, or the number of hotels in close proximity, It also doesn’t seem to make any difference as to whether Emirates operates, which may help explain why Birmingham agreed to do it.

All departures remain from T1, but who knew domestic arrivals are still into T3?
Arriving from Exeter you are directed by signs from T1 to T3 Domestic arrivals, where there are no staff, no baggage belt information. Then you exit into the T3 deserted forecourt. Unless you were familiar with the airport layout you wouldn't know where any facilities were. If anyone were meeting you, they'd probably expect you in T1 where you departed from.

A quick scan of the arrivals boards for LGW, LCY, BRS and BHX for today shows a grand total of one flight from a red zone country (EK into BHX). Even allowing for the fact that there'll probably be some quantity of red list passengers arriving on other flights, just how big do you consider this market to be? Maybe it just is the case that MAG have looked at the numbers and concluded - particularly operating in the constraints of T1 - that the logistics and impact on other flights/passengers really isn't worthwhile?

In Scotland there are quarantine hotels in Edinburgh Glasgow and Aberdeen. There's a twice weekly Qatar flight into Edinburgh, several flights a day from Amsterdam and some flights from frankfurt which may all carry passengers who require hotel quarantine.

I appreciate numbers are limited BUT Manchester is the largest gateway outside London, why is it appropriate for Birmingham and Bristol to offer this facility but not worthwhile at Manchester ?

I don't want to re open the cargo debate , the issues have been discussed ad nauseum , but that is another area which is apparently quote "not worthwhile".

We still have UK aircraft stored all over Europe despite pleas from a number of UK airlines to use Manchester and its 2 miles of empty runway, the requests were turned down, yet again "not worthwhile".

Everything connected to Manchester seems to be quote "not worthwhile".

Where is the creativity and agilty of mind that turned Manchester from a small regional airport to a 30m pax gateway ?

Great points Navpi well made.
Diversions
CargoCovid cargo flights
Quarantine

When are people going to stop defending the indefensible.

In terms of the wider commercial impact it's a rounding error, it doesn't matter.
You're literally asking "SEND ME YOUR INFECTED PEOPLE", the volumes inbound from red list countries are, by definition small and probably best kept in as few places as possible. The notion that Manchester Airport is affronted by under-indexing among inbound volumes of the likely diseased is a new one, even for these boards. COVID is driving us all slowly mad......

Everyone is focussed on trying to get some degree of manageable volume flying sensibly and safely again, if we lose another summer, it will be a calamity.

Aer Lingus UK start up delayed again.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...94890?mode=amp

Sure if Manchester isnt a Red list gateway then how can Emirates be using A380s in to there regularly ? Its obviously not a case they cant accept flights

With regard pax they are empty inbound with pax outbound only - cargo both ways

TURIN

Again? This is the first official delay.

Although it May be the first 'Official' delay, there have been numerous internal and Operational push-backs. I think the original slots were filed for end March.

Can you imagine if Manchester was a designated gateway but not Heathrow, you would be screaming blue murder.

My God MANCHESTER has grown some bolls.....😁
At last

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.b...s-57505736.amp

EZY MAN -EDI… surely thats a lot of seats to fill? ‘I give it a year’ (or until such times Benidorm comes back online)

Heathrow's the UK's world gateway, so no, I can't imagine this happening, so let's stop being silly. You always take this personally as some sort of affront, as if not being designated a red country gateway is even going to be remembered in six months time.

As for Emirates and the A380, all UK flights are cargo inbound and passengers/cargo returning, loads are not close to filling the A380 but the fleet is being brought back to life as they're running the B77W fleet hard.

The night before we shut the door there were 6 extra flights from ISB to bring people home. Before that, literally thousands of people were travelling from MAN through the ME3 primarily to Pakistan and Bangladesh. Since then the numbers outbound have plummeted, many of the outbound flights from MAN are cargo only, ergo the potential numbers returning will also have plummeted.

TURIN

yet laughing Bristol is 🤔

right now we still have Etihad and Ethiopian Qatar and PIA flights with Portuguese aircraft. Exactly how many red lists are there into the West Country pick a number !

It's always possible that the airport hotels didn't want the business, easier to keep staff on furlough.