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southamptonavgeek 30th Aug 2022 16:44

Looks more like an A.O.C certification flight. Is there any record of an application having been submitted?

ATNotts 30th Aug 2022 17:28


Originally Posted by southamptonavgeek (Post 11287887)
Looks more like an A.O.C certification flight. Is there any record of an application having been submitted?

Their website says that the AOC application was made in March 2020.

Hopefully it will be awarded imminently. Just operating permissions from India to win. That could be a bigger challenge than the AOC!

BHX5DME 30th Aug 2022 18:31


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11287895)
Their website says that the AOC application was made in March 2020.

Hopefully it will be awarded imminently. Just operating permissions from India to win. That could be a bigger challenge than the AOC!

Yes the A330 went out to Oceanic entry point and then crew training at PIK and DSA. Not expecting any issues with rights etc to India.

BHX5DME 1st Sep 2022 08:48

CAA proving flight was successful and AOC should be granted soon, traffic rights pending but looking good for a Winter timetable launch.

ATNotts 1st Sep 2022 08:56


Originally Posted by BHX5DME (Post 11288821)
CAA proving flight was successful and AOC should be granted soon, traffic rights pending but looking good for a Winter timetable launch.

Well if there is a 'race' between the current clutch of would be UK - Subcontinent operators Hans are well ahead of FlyPop. Slapping a snazzy paint job on your aircraft may not have proven to be right priority, nice though the FlyPop A330 looks!

VickersVicount 5th Sep 2022 19:26

the cabin on the route proving A330 looks ‘naff’. Even the kitchen towel disposable head rest covers don’t look inspiring. The price and huge luggage allowance better be the selling point for the ‘Indian Secondary Cities’

ATNotts 5th Sep 2022 20:45


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11291418)
the cabin on the route proving A330 looks ‘naff’. Even the kitchen towel disposable head rest covers don’t look inspiring. The price and huge luggage allowance better be the selling point for the ‘Indian Secondary Cities’

I would suspect that the selling point on BHX/ATQ is going to be price, followed by price. An all singing all dancing cabin, certainly in 'cattle class' will come in a distant third.

747Aviatior 9th Sep 2022 11:14


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11208381)
I believe it's a mythical bird from Indian culture.

Its a Swan, 5 tail feathers, one for each of the 5 k's of the sikh element and a crotchet music note for some music element too

Copenhagen 29th Oct 2022 22:54

It seems from companies house that the chairman, Ruchir Verma, resigned on Friday.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12278146/filing-history

That’s cant be very reassuring to the AOC committee as he was a large shareholder?

SOPS 29th Oct 2022 23:01


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10848607)
Oh yes. Just ask Jason Unsworth.
These Hans guys have really pushed the boat out at £1000.


Please. Don’t bring Jason back again!

ATNotts 30th Oct 2022 07:59


Originally Posted by Copenhagen (Post 11322364)
It seems from companies house that the chairman, Ruchir Verma, resigned on Friday.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12278146/filing-history

That’s cant be very reassuring to the AOC committee as he was a large shareholder?

In terms of his expertise within the industry I am not sure his departure is that significant. The role of Chairman is often essentially ceremonial.

What is of far greater concern is that still no start date has been set, and no revenue is being generated. Air India meanwhile is bolstering their schedule between ATQ and BHX and the question now is has Hans Airways missed their window of opportunity.

Copenhagen 30th Oct 2022 10:20

According to companies house, The chairman was the second largest shareholder.






ATNotts 30th Oct 2022 10:55


Originally Posted by Copenhagen (Post 11322496)
According to companies house, The chairman was the second largest shareholder.

It's entirely possible that it was always the plan that he would exit the business after it reached a given point in its evolution, and of course he could keep his financial interest in the business, clearly unless any information comes from the company or the former chairman we will never know as it is not a publicly quoted company.

That said, it is probably more likely that he isn't happy with the progress of the business and had a difference of opinion with the board level decisions.

Whatever, such changes don't do anything to make the employees feel secure.

LGS6753 30th Oct 2022 14:12

I would imagine that a shareholding in a fledgling airline amounts to a liability rather than an asset.

MARK 101 1st Nov 2022 16:46

Hearing worrying rumours about Hans Airways.people who were offered jobs ,now being told their positions are not now being offered.
hopefully its just a glitch, but with the aircraft having sat at BHX for weeks now and no start date being announced it does seem a liitle concerning

ATNotts 1st Nov 2022 17:01


Originally Posted by MARK 101 (Post 11323824)
Hearing worrying rumours about Hans Airways.people who were offered jobs ,now being told their positions are not now being offered.
hopefully its just a glitch, but with the aircraft having sat at BHX for weeks now and no start date being announced it does seem a liitle concerning

That doesn't sound good, hopefully none of those people have given up secure jobs to join Hans.

If they are going belly up it wouldn't come as a big surprise to me as Air India has already stolen a march with their soon to be 3 x weekly direct ATQ service to BHX.

Icemanc 2nd Nov 2022 14:57

Does this mean FlyPOP now have more of a chance too? ;)

ATNotts 2nd Nov 2022 15:10


Originally Posted by Icemanc (Post 11324305)
Does this mean FlyPOP now have more of a chance too? ;)

Or potentially "two down, one to go", (the mob planning services out of LBA having already disappeared)

FlyPop is further back down the line than Hans Airways, and it'll only take Air India to rekindle their ATQ-STN operation for that outfit to be threatened with hitting the buffers.

Copenhagen 2nd Nov 2022 20:17

If a x3 weekly service by an obsolete flag carrier can kill a business case, it wasn’t much of a business case to start with.


Atlantic Explorer 3rd Nov 2022 06:32


Originally Posted by Copenhagen (Post 11324468)
If a x3 weekly service by an obsolete flag carrier can kill a business case, it wasn’t much of a business case to start with.

Indeed, I still can’t get my head around why so many people squander so much cash trying to get completely unworkable airlines off the ground!


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