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Captain_Caveman 24th Mar 2020 23:53

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f0f513dac.jpeg
The red noses parked up in Stavanger !

sparkie320 25th Mar 2020 02:44


Originally Posted by NickBarnes (Post 10726757)
Hi Mark,

Thanks for that list, I saw 4 KLM 737s arrive this morning, presume for storage also?

yes i belive so 1 might be for engineering
along with Aurginy 190 too
but cant go check
mark

BAladdy 25th Mar 2020 05:14


Originally Posted by RJ100 (Post 10726459)
10 BA A319/320 are due to arrive in Bournemouth today
G-EUUD, UH, UJ, UK, UL, PW.
G-EUYC, YD, YE,YJ.
A Virgin A340-600 also arrived from Prestwick this morning.

BA are planning to fly a further 5 A319, 4 A320 and 1 A321 aircraft to BOH later today. This will take the total number of aircraft stored at BOH to 31 (10 A319’s, 16 A320’s and 5 A321’s)

crewmeal 25th Mar 2020 08:26

I'm surprised nothing has been parked in BHX unless FR are planning something.

Sotonsean 25th Mar 2020 08:54


Originally Posted by turbidus (Post 10724516)
unclear why it matters where the ac are stored?

Going by the amount of interesting post's and photos uploaded on this thread since you made your negative post it appears that it's quite clear to the majority of people that it does matter 😂

Have you enjoyed the informative updates I know that I have 🤗

LiamNCL 25th Mar 2020 10:28


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 10725662)
NCL

JET2 - G-DRTB G-GDFP G-JZBD G-JZBP G-JZBR G-JZHN
easyJet - G-UZLH G-EZBD G-EZAP
TUI - G-FDZB G-FDZY G-TAWN G-TAWO G-TAWW

+1 TUI G-FDZU

ericlday 25th Mar 2020 10:38

Wizz Air GWUKC/D/F/G/J LTN - DSA

Wycombe 25th Mar 2020 11:36

Flybe E195 G-FBEI has been moved from EXT to NWI this morning.

Longtimer 25th Mar 2020 14:01

Jets grounded by coronavirus parked at Waterloo Region International Airport


https://dynamicmedia.zuza.com/zz/m/o...r_Portrait.jpgSunwing Airlines’ parked planes at Waterloo Region International Airport on Monday. – David Bebee , Waterloo Region Recordhttps://dynamicmedia.zuza.com/zz/m/o...r_Portrait.jpg

The airport’s general manager told The Record Monday morning they had an agreement with Sunwing to park 15 Boeing 737-800 jets at the airport for the next month. Eight of the aircraft had already arrived at the airport as of Monday morning, with an additional seven expected by the end of the day.

JSCL 25th Mar 2020 14:13

That hybrid livery is absolutely vile.

AIRBUSNNS17 25th Mar 2020 16:36


Originally Posted by JSCL (Post 10727811)
That hybrid livery is absolutely vile.

Thats temporary. When TUI send planes to SWG thats all they paint. Thatll be removed when they return to the UK.

stewyb 25th Mar 2020 17:05


Originally Posted by AIRBUSNNS17 (Post 10727950)
Thats temporary. When TUI send planes to SWG thats all they paint. Thatll be removed when they return to the UK.

Looks like the result of a TUIeasyJet pregnancy!

ROC10 25th Mar 2020 19:27


Originally Posted by AIRBUSNNS17 (Post 10727950)
Thats temporary. When TUI send planes to SWG thats all they paint. Thatll be removed when they return to the UK.

Those aren't UK frames but yes, it will be removed when they return (presumably to Germany), if not before. Interestingly, TUI UK make no effort to paint the summer SWG leases into any sort of Hybrid livery.

Groundloop 25th Mar 2020 22:02


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10728097)
Interestingly, TUI UK make no effort to paint the summer SWG leases into any sort of Hybrid livery.

Really? This is G-TAWH.




CEJM 25th Mar 2020 22:13

Groundloop, you may want to read ROC10’s statement again!

What ROC10 said is that the Sunwing aircraft coming to the UK in the summer do not get painted into a hybrid livery. They keep their full Sunwing livery whilst operating for TUI UK.

Gillbrown 26th Mar 2020 12:23

I wonder where Emirates are keeping the vast A380 fleet? Surely there is not enough room at DXB?

Groundloop 26th Mar 2020 13:52


Originally Posted by CEJM (Post 10728266)
Groundloop, you may want to read ROC10’s statement again!

What ROC10 said is that the Sunwing aircraft coming to the UK in the summer do not get painted into a hybrid livery. They keep their full Sunwing livery whilst operating for TUI UK.

Apologies.

Seat4A 26th Mar 2020 13:53


Originally Posted by Gillbrown (Post 10728812)
I wonder where Emirates are keeping the vast A380 fleet? Surely there is not enough room at DXB?

I'd read at DWC, possibly elsewhere as well.

Some photos here


Curious Pax 26th Mar 2020 16:38


Originally Posted by Gillbrown (Post 10728812)
I wonder where Emirates are keeping the vast A380 fleet? Surely there is not enough room at DXB?

FR24 suggests 53 are on the deck at DWC, along with 41 777s and 23 FlyDubai 737s.

vctenderness 26th Mar 2020 18:29

What, roughly, is the cost of parking an aircraft in The U.K.?

is it based on size?

JSCL 26th Mar 2020 19:14


Originally Posted by vctenderness (Post 10729183)
What, roughly, is the cost of parking an aircraft in The U.K.?

is it based on size?

Usually based on weight. You can expect about £85-200/day depending on which airport for a 737/320/757.

Can go up to about £200-400/day for big boys.

bigjim99 26th Mar 2020 21:56


Originally Posted by JSCL (Post 10729216)
Usually based on weight. You can expect about £85-200/day depending on which airport for a 737/320/757.

Can go up to about £200-400/day for big boys.

Cheaper than express car parking then haha

Longtimer 27th Mar 2020 02:14


https://samchui.com/2020/03/26/covid.../#.Xn1g9ohKhPZ

Seat4A 27th Mar 2020 03:28

Video at YYZ


Squawk_ident 27th Mar 2020 09:28

LFPG storage 25mar20
 
https://www.dropbox.com/l/scl/AABvZX...zk3-k7xAOXtqJc

Flitefone 27th Mar 2020 15:47

EGHH
 

KelvinD 27th Mar 2020 22:56

Flitefone: I don't see an image there (poss my PC set up?) so I hope this is not a duplicate post:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b915e70838.jpg

Seat4A 28th Mar 2020 01:21

"Video showing much of Emirates' fleet now stored at DWC Al Maktoum Airport."



Originally Posted by Seat4A (Post 10730622)

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Seat4A 28th Mar 2020 01:26

The drone footage really captures it.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....721f06de87.png


Tweet link to video:


procede 28th Mar 2020 18:38

Runway 18L-36R at AMS is now also going to be used for parking, adding another 25 places above the 200 they already had.

fotheringay 28th Mar 2020 20:41

How long can these aircraft stay on the ground for without the need for servicing before getting airborne again?

Yeehaw22 28th Mar 2020 20:54


Originally Posted by fotheringay (Post 10731386)
How long can these aircraft stay on the ground for without the need for servicing before getting airborne again?

They will have continued maintenance checks whilst on the ground.

Usually an into-storage check. 7/14/28 day checks then an exit-storage check. Depending on type obviously. From memory if you get beyond 60 or 90 days then there's more work to be done.

LGS6753 29th Mar 2020 09:45

Yesterday, Ryanair flew a circuit with 4 of the aircraft at Luton. Can't see why they should need to do that when others are parking up large numbers for long periods.

N707ZS 29th Mar 2020 10:33


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 10731872)
Yesterday, Ryanair flew a circuit with 4 of the aircraft at Luton. Can't see why they should need to do that when others are parking up large numbers for long periods.

Perhaps a new Irish system to store them in the air. Bit of humour sorry.

ericlday 29th Mar 2020 10:45

Also did circuits at Stansted

Mr @ Spotty M 29th Mar 2020 11:18

Major aircraft manufacturers have different AMM procedures for parking aircraft, Airbus have the best workable parking procedures that l have come across.
Airbus you can use parking requirements covering 7, 14 and so on, which you can repeat, these requirements are not classed as storage.
Boeing has always been a pain in the a***, with regards parking an aircraft which you do not want to fly for a few weeks.
It used to be, don't know if it has changed in the last couple of years, that after 7 days parking, all you had left was storage checks.
These checks would take a day or so to carry out, included using a protection compound on all leading edges and also doing so with any control cables.
It would take even longer to take out of storage and it would be very expensive and time consuming procedure.
Sometimes you could get around this by moving the aircraft so that the tyres are rotated and power up the aircraft, use the hydraulics, run systems including the APU and engines.
Ryanair are by the looks of it getting around using storage checks by flying the aircraft and using the parking AMM procedures.

racedo 29th Mar 2020 11:37


Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M (Post 10731970)
Ryanair are by the looks of it getting around using storage checks by flying the aircraft and using the parking AMM procedures.

Keeps the staff busy and if get a chance to do a circuit or two then even better.

You do highlight what will become a problem if flights start up quickly as there is not staff available to get things going quickly for every aircraft.

commit aviation 29th Mar 2020 12:36

The information on Boeing aligns with what I had heard and seen. In previous years when Ryanair parked up aircraft in the winter, they would always rotate them into service every three days to ensure they were not classed as "stored".
Picking up on Racedo's point, I heard (albeit third hand) that one of Ryanair's challenges when this virus starts to wind down will be recovering their fleet from Italy. Most of those aircraft have been left for some considerable time now and will all require an "A Check" to return them to service. Only a few hours work but logistically will require an engineer to go to each of the aircraft whereas normally, the aircraft would go to an engineering line station for the check.
Hopefully there will be a Boeing engineer along in a moment to confirm or deny that!!

DaveReidUK 29th Mar 2020 13:08


Originally Posted by commit aviation (Post 10732045)
The information on Boeing aligns with what I had heard and seen. In previous years when Ryanair parked up aircraft in the winter, they would always rotate them into service every three days to ensure they were not classed as "stored".

Classed by whom, and according to what accepted criteria ?

commit aviation 29th Mar 2020 13:59

DaveReidUK - that I don't know. In my role at the time, we parked up a number of aircraft for FR during the winter when not required. From my recollections, no aircraft was left idle for longer than three days and the handlers / line engineers suggested this was the reason.
I imagine there would be something in the Boeing manuals somewhere which makes this the case but I couldn't quote you a reference. It is why I suggested that if a Boeing engineer was lurking on the forum, they might be able to provide some clarity.


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