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Gurnard 8th Aug 2019 09:22

NORWEGIAN 787s
 
B787-9 SE-RXM was delivered in mid-June but has never entered service - status "stored".
What is the reason for this? With other branches of Norwegian having to sub-charter for the Max situation as well as at LGW for B787-9s why could this aircraft not be used for short-term cover until it enters service to destinations from Sweden?

Hotel Tango 8th Aug 2019 10:07

Same problem as other 787s? From what I could glean it's also awaiting engine replacements.

rog747 8th Aug 2019 11:59

DY/DI/D8 have massive logical problems (and costs ££££'s) to cover their current schedules for both long and short haul, plus to cover the new routes announced...

They have 5 long haul ACMI aircraft contracts on duty from LGW and DUB to cover the 787's that are AOG due RR engine recalls....

Passenger loyalty and experience is rapidly waning as the ACMI aircraft used far way short of the new Dreamliner experience, and DI/DY not being able to offer their full service product

Gurnard 8th Aug 2019 16:40


Originally Posted by Hotel Tango (Post 10539959)
Same problem as other 787s? From what I could glean it's also awaiting engine replacements.

I find that incredible. A brand-new aircraft (presumably with brand-new engines!) which cannot enter service before its basically unused engines are replaced! That seems to speak volumes about 21st century Boeing. Understandable to a point if it is what is equivalent to a recall in the motor industry - as with the ongoing programme with used 787s. But to take delivery of an aircraft which cannot be used? The mind boggles. Presumably the position with SE-RXZ (delivered more recently) will be the same.

Gulf Julliet Papa 8th Aug 2019 16:54


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10540232)
Presumably the position with SE-RXZ (delivered more recently) will be the same.

RXZ is ex G-CKNZ which was delivered quite a while ago

PIK3141 8th Aug 2019 18:59

As I type four are here in Prestwick, two stored, two at the Chevron hangar. SE-RXY arrived from Charleston on 31st July. Aircraft arriving are in for engine rectification or are donating engines to others which leave. Clearly not enough serviceable engines and so you find brand new aircraft donating their new engines to older aircraft which return to service.

Gurnard 8th Aug 2019 21:05


Originally Posted by Gulf Julliet Papa (Post 10540243)

RXZ is ex G-CKNZ which was delivered quite a while ago

Oops... that was a typo. Meant SE-RXY as the brand-new a/c..
Thanks PIK3141 for the explanation in your post.

Torquelink 9th Aug 2019 11:06


find that incredible. A brand-new aircraft (presumably with brand-new engines!) which cannot enter service before its basically unused engines are replaced! That seems to speak volumes about 21st century Boeing.
Not sure you can blame Boeing this time. Try RR.

22/04 9th Aug 2019 17:16

I also know that Virgin try to ground individual aircraft for less than one year as this reduces the work that has to be done to return them to service.

nivsy 9th Aug 2019 20:23

X3 of Norwegian 787 seen at JFK late last night from what I think I saw going back to EU land. If 4 are at PIK how many do the carrier have working?

Vokes55 9th Aug 2019 21:00


Originally Posted by nivsy (Post 10541225)
X3 of Norwegian 787 seen at JFK late last night from what I think I saw going back to EU land. If 4 are at PIK how many do the carrier have working?

JFK gets around nine Norwegian 787s a day, as well as an Evelop A333 wet-lease and another two 787s a day at EWR.


Originally Posted by rog747
Passenger loyalty and experience is rapidly waning as the ACMI aircraft used far way short of the new Dreamliner experience, and DI/DY not being able to offer their full service product

Many of their competitors are having far bigger issues that have improved any loads lost to "passenger loyalty waning". Think SAS strikes and BA proposed strikes - load factors and advanced bookings at Norwegian are at an all time high.

Voldermort 10th Aug 2019 08:12

Quick update, last night LN-LNS also arrived at PIK (from CDG) so that now makes 5 on the ground here

pabely 10th Aug 2019 08:49


Originally Posted by nivsy (Post 10541225)
X3 of Norwegian 787 seen at JFK late last night from what I think I saw going back to EU land. If 4 are at PIK how many do the carrier have working?

37 Dreamliners across the various parts of the group. If you do some research on FR24 you could work out which are working.

toledoashley 10th Aug 2019 18:22


Curious Pax 10th Aug 2019 20:04


Originally Posted by CW247 (Post 10541935)
Perhaps relevant? In Beijing you can see about 15 x Air China 787s standing side by side with missing engines.

They only have 14, and a quick check just now showed 5 in the air in service.....

Vokes55 12th Aug 2019 10:05

One of their 787s has apparently hit the blast fence at Gatwick on push back this morning. Not having much luck unfortunately.

nivsy 12th Aug 2019 15:42


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 10543070)
One of their 787s has apparently hit the blast fence at Gatwick on push back this morning. Not having much luck unfortunately.

Push tugs seem to be causing a few issues these days...but yes you are right. No luck for Norwegian.

Dairyground 12th Aug 2019 19:06


One of their 787s has apparently hit the blast fence at Gatwick on push back this morning. Not having much luck unfortunately
.

But that could be two working engines going to another airframe - if they can be transported to PIK or wherever.

jensdad 13th Aug 2019 15:08

More trouble at t'mill...
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/201...vLOx30q5TsdFus

JonEMA 11th Sep 2019 06:56

Does anyone know the latest on Noerwegian 787 fleet vis a vis engines...?

Given that the Trent 1000 must be decoupled and inspected more often where does this leave Norwegian and their ability to mount a meaningful 787 schedule this winter..?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/virgi...144030202.html


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