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NickBarnes 3rd Feb 2019 12:09

I believe that has probably been the case Mark yes, Also with the brand new world duty free, new Costa before security, whsmith also renovated before security, whsmith opening another one in departures and also a Costa currently been completed in departures, you feel all this has been done with an airline such as themselves coming to the airport.

sparkie320 3rd Feb 2019 16:10


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10378785)
Thanks M - just heard that sadly Germania/ST are about to go bust it seems
I think freebird did the DLM last year for one of the tour company's
BH? is that Balkan Hols...Bourgas?

cheers R

PS Re BA CF - Am thinking now it was HUY they did some summer IT's from 2017 -
They have a big weekend IT show from all over Scotland (Barrhead Travel) plus some others from IOM

Hope Germania survie there a good airline and the feedback on the NWI run was good

yes BH Air Balkan Holidays to Bourgas
Freebird covered the Saturday Dalaman for TUI but wont be back this year, shame i needed to capture TC-FHC on film
Sunwing / TUI are operating it this year i belive on a Monday replacing i think Gran Canaria not sure expect someone will fill me in there

Mark

BAladdy 3rd Feb 2019 17:52


Originally Posted by sparkie320 (Post 10378675)
yes it seems so unless others know different
I did put that in my last post I think

Mark

The only reason I ask is that the Flybe website normally shows the route is operated by Bmi regional on behalf of Eastern Airways. However from 1st April the flights show as just being operated by Eastern Airways. No mention of BMI Regional.

Flights from 1st April are showing as still operated by a ER4

TWS04 3rd Feb 2019 17:58

There was mention in the last year or two about an airline such as Wizz! operating routes to Eastern Europe but that either name came to fruition or is still being negotiated.
Would be good if Ryanair or EasyJet did join, it’s the low fares that are winning these days.
BGH/BOJ this year will operate on a Thursday morning rather than a Sunday.

southside bobby 5th Feb 2019 04:17

Just to complete the sentiments expressed here Germania have indeed shut down overnight.

rog747 5th Feb 2019 07:01


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10380591)
Just to complete the sentiments expressed here Germania have indeed shut down overnight.

Great shame - they were a great package holiday airline from a passenger and tour operators perspective one of the best these past few years,
although I gather their Terms and Endearment with pilots and crew were perhaps questionable (P2F pay to fly pilots and work conditions)

So Germany's last private long established holiday airline future looks very bleak, ST started life in the 70's as SAT with Caravelles -
Is there any one else now left in Europe?
Monarch was the last in the UK....We have Titan but not quite the same - although they do a few IT Med and ski flights of their own.

Edit - seems its all over and ST folds last night - The Swiss and Bulgarian subsidiaries live to see another day though....

ATNotts 5th Feb 2019 07:07


Great shame - they were a great package holiday airline from a passenger and tour operators perspective one of the best these past few years,
although I gather their Terms and Endearment with pilots and crew were perhaps questionable (P2F pay to fly pilots and work conditions)
Similar to Monarch in some respects. Just too good to survive in this era of pile it high, sell it cheap and to hell with customer service. I suppose you could say "it's the will of the people".

rog747 5th Feb 2019 07:22

Quite - the old ethos seems to have now died - even Sunvil have now given up trying to offer their pax a full service IT charter with hot meals etc

(Although Novair in Sweden flying for Apollo Resor seems to be OK - for now, having just taken two new A321NEO's for IT work)

Quote-
''Germania is an independent German airline with a history that goes back more than 40 years. The airline with the green and white logo carries more than 4 million passengers per year on short-haul and medium-haul flights. Germania offers connections from 18 departure airports in Europe to over 60 destinations within the continent, in North Africa and the Middle East.

Reversing the common industry trend, Germania continues to offer complimentary hot meals, snacks, soft drinks, magazines and a 20 kg free baggage allowance.

Germania’s business model combines scheduled, charter and ad-hoc IT flights. Together with Bulgarian Eagle and the Swiss airline Germania Flug AG, Germania operates a fleet of currently 37 aircraft. Germania Technik Brandenburg GmbH is responsible for the company's aircraft maintenance.''

Mike Flynn 5th Feb 2019 07:54


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10378327)
Shame! My best guess is Ryanair!

If it is Ryanair a lot will have to change at the airport not least the appalling staff and over the top security.

Then there is the departure tax.

When I am in the UK I refuse to use Norwich ,even though it is the nearest airport, for the reasons that many cite on the Skytrax review.


Reversing the common industry trend, Germania continues to offer complimentary hot meals, snacks, soft drinks, magazines and a 20 kg free baggage allowance.
A crazy business model these days. Low cost airlines and and online hotel consolidaters have moved the goalposts to the detriment of traditional package tour operators.
If I am on a cheap flight of a couple of hours I don’t need the frills, inflight food or
20kg of luggage. I suspect a lot of high street travel agents have a limited future.

PDXCWL45 5th Feb 2019 07:59


Originally Posted by Mike Flynn (Post 10380700)


If it is Ryanair a lot will have to change at the airport not least the appalling staff and over the top security.

Then there is the departure tax.

Like many I refuse to use Norwich for the reasons that many cite on the Skytrax review of the airport.

I imagine that the departure taxwould go.

tommynwi 3rd May 2019 13:08

Loganair starting flights to Aberdeen from 01st September. Up to 3 daily m-f and a Sunday evening service. Operated by a 3rd based embraer jet.

TartinTon 3rd May 2019 15:15


Originally Posted by tommynwi (Post 10461988)
Loganair starting flights to Aberdeen from 01st September. Up to 3 daily m-f and a Sunday evening service. Operated by a 3rd based embraer jet.

Are Eastern stopping or is it going back to its old, unsustainable 6 flights a day?

NickBarnes 3rd May 2019 15:38


Originally Posted by TartinTon (Post 10462074)
Are Eastern stopping or is it going back to its old, unsustainable 6 flights a day?

Old 6 times a day

sparkie320 4th May 2019 04:40

Aberdeen route
 
This could be interesting if Loganair start Aberdeen route
bearing in mind the route currently operated by a former BMI Embraer operated as a Flybe franchise and a single Sunday Eastern Atr72
Now that the Embraer fleet are all Loganair i can't see them operating there own flight and the Flybe/Eastern
i would take a guess and say the Eastern/Flybe will disappear and the whole route becomes fully Loganair, could be wrong
If you remember Eastern closed NWI as a base
shame we shall see
mark


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