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Plane mad 134 18th Mar 2018 11:01

Humberside
 
At the moment humberside have managed to keep all their charters i see

EGPO 19th Mar 2018 09:54

As airports go it is very quiet .
Little or no pax growth .
Zero cargo . I recall there used to be at least weekly ( maybe more - perhaps someone more up on this can confirm. ...).
An Icelandair 757 Carrying Fish?. Found this odd given the proximity to Grimsby .
But also there I'm sure used to be Ryanair heading west on takeoff . I was down that way visiting family close to DSA
A Very low flying 737 Was taking off from HUY But was still low enough to make out colours and Airline etc.!.
Also it was owned by MAG now isn't it owned by Eastern and North lincs council ?.
If Eastern get taken over by Flybe or Stobart might there be more Domestic flights?.

RAFAT 19th Mar 2018 17:36

Eastern is not going to get taken over by Flybe or Stobart, that's for sure.

mr_moose 19th Mar 2018 21:41

Humberside, what charters it does have, seem to generally do quite well - In Summer 18 though, only regular charters will be TUI to Palma, and Balkan to Bougras, plus a weekly Flybe to Jersey. The Jetxtra departures to Alicante operated by BA Cityflyer have been canned this year though.

Ryanair have tried HUY a couple of times, with a Daily Dublin in the mid 00s' which didnt do very well (aircraft too large!), and a twice weekly Alicante, which appeared to do OK until Ryanair and Alicante airport had a dispute, and the route was dropped and never returned.

KLM to Amsterdam continues to do quite well, Eastern to Aberdeen did well up until a couple of years ago when the oil price fell, now it seems to be treading water, as many other Aberdeen routes seem to be doing.

Plane mad 134 11th May 2018 20:20

Balkan have increased the service to 2x weekly from Bourgas for S19, and Eurowings are to start the Palma service in S19 as Tui are ending it in October.

LGWAlan 14th May 2018 12:23


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10144339)
Balkan have increased the service to 2x weekly from Bourgas for S19, and Eurowings are to start the Palma service in S19 as Tui are ending it in October.

The Eurowings IS for TUI Holidays. The airline TUI don't operate anything in their own right - they operate where TUI Holidays tell them to operate. All this is is a change of airline for the charterand probably a reduction in size from a B738 to a A319 - 40 fewer seats a week to fill

FRatSTN 30th Sep 2018 11:47

Summer 2019 Update
 
TUI service to PMI for S19 to be operated now by Air Europa as opposed to Eurowings with new times being a 12:10 arrival and 13:00 departure each Tuesday. TUI will then operate it for a brief spell during October 2019 with their ABZ based aircraft. Puts a bit of seat capacity back in with an upgrade back up to a B738 through the season.

Loganair also to take on the weekly Saturday run to Jersey from Flybe. Now a 13:55 arrival with a 14:35 departure.

Balkan Holidays still set to increase to 2x weekly moving to Thursday and Sunday services. 08:00 arrival, 09:00 departure on Thursdays and a 07:30 arrival, 08:30 departure each Sunday.

Perhaps an overall increase in passenger traffic for 2019? - Apart from negligible increases in 2013 and 2014, would be the first increase since 2006.

virginblue 17th Jul 2019 07:44

Is my understanding correct that there is no public transport from HUY for passengers on the evening KLM flight that arrives at 9:15pm?

Plane mad 134 2nd Apr 2020 11:03


Originally Posted by virginblue (Post 10520588)
Is my understanding correct that there is no public transport from HUY for passengers on the evening KLM flight that arrives at 9:15pm?

Sorry for the very late reply but I don't believe any buses run to Humberside at that time, I don't think any buses run on Sunday either, So taxis and your own car are the only option.

Plane mad 134 2nd Apr 2020 11:05

Also not sure if last year was the same but once things start up again KLM will operate an E190 on 1 of the 3 daily flights Mon-Fri.

pug 10th Nov 2022 18:37

Some good news for once;

2Excel Aviation aircraft to depart Doncaster-Sheffield Airport | 2Excel Aviation

davidjohnson6 16th Nov 2022 10:57

Apologies if this is old news, but Eastern to fly 3x weekly to/from Esbjerg in Denmark from 14 December 2022. Public scheduled flights, not wind-industry-only private charters

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/eastern-airways-launches-new-humberside-denmark-route-37155

pug 16th Nov 2022 11:02


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11331729)
Apologies if this is old news, but Eastern to fly 3x weekly to/from Esbjerg in Denmark from 14 December 2022. Public scheduled flights, not wind-industry-only private charters

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/easter...rk-route-37155

Further, NQY which started in S22 2 x weekly is to return at a higher frequency for S23. Good to see a homegrown airline finally cautiously expanding at Humberside,

davidjohnson6 13th Dec 2022 18:01

The new Humberside-Esbjerg route begins tomorrow.
Eastern with a J41 on a 1h50 route is likely to need some high fares to make the route profitable.
EBJ-HUY tomorrow is priced at £86 oneway, while on all other dates, the entry fare of £86 (ie 99.99 euros) seems available on all other dates
HUY-EBJ is £120 oneway tomorrow and £100 on all other dates.
Oneway fares go up about £6 for all dates from early April.
Fares mentioned above are for a no-change no-refund oneway but do include cabin and hold baggage.

These fares are somewhat lower than the (significantly shorter) Humberside-Aberdeen route which makes me wonder about demand on the Humberside-Esbjerg route. Fares on the Aberdeen-Esbjerg route look more robust. Yes, I know routes need time to mature, but Eastern will want to see reasonably encouraging signs before long.

Does anyone have any data on demand on HUY-EBJ to suggest the route will last ? I am hoping this route will not resemble Flybe's Norwich-DeKooy route

G-FORZ 13th Dec 2022 18:18

Could this be to support the Danish wind turbine industry which is in quite some demand in the North Sea?

pug 13th Dec 2022 19:01


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11347233)
The new Humberside-Esbjerg route begins tomorrow.
Eastern with a J41 on a 1h50 route is likely to need some high fares to make the route profitable.
EBJ-HUY tomorrow is priced at £86 oneway, while on all other dates, the entry fare of £86 (ie 99.99 euros) seems available on all other dates
HUY-EBJ is £120 oneway tomorrow and £100 on all other dates.
Oneway fares go up about £6 for all dates from early April.
Fares mentioned above are for a no-change no-refund oneway but do include cabin and hold baggage.

These fares are somewhat lower than the (significantly shorter) Humberside-Aberdeen route which makes me wonder about demand on the Humberside-Esbjerg route. Fares on the Aberdeen-Esbjerg route look more robust. Yes, I know routes need time to mature, but Eastern will want to see reasonably encouraging signs before long.

Does anyone have any data on demand on HUY-EBJ to suggest the route will last ? I am hoping this route will not resemble Flybe's Norwich-DeKooy route

G-FORZ is correct. This route has been established on the back of local industry (offshore, shipping, renewables) requests for it. In recent years there has been attempts by SAS (5 x weekly) and later Sunair to Billind on contract which was ultimately satisfied.

NQY has done surprisingly well this year, nothing to suggest Esbjerg won’t given the industry support for it. Think it’s a bit to early to do an armchair analysis of the situation.

SWBKCB 13th Dec 2022 19:21

And remember the J.41's cost them b*gger all years ago - not like they've got big finance costs to pay back on them. Would imagine they don't need much to make a profit.

Might almost be a corporate shuttle with the spare seats being sold type of operation.

pug 28th Dec 2022 17:11

Another announcement tomorrow apparently, to be made via Humberside Airport Travel. Not a clue what but perhaps some more much needed bucket and spade flights.

EGPO 28th Dec 2022 21:58


Originally Posted by pug (Post 11355666)
Another announcement tomorrow apparently, to be made via Humberside Airport Travel. Not a clue what but perhaps some more much needed bucket and spade flights.

given the loss of Doncaster , perhaps there is hope the region , may yet have a reasonable local airport , and mercifully one not under the control of Peel .
Here's hoping Huy is now going to expand .

aapeters 29th Dec 2022 09:04

Packages to Iceland - Not sure who the operator is

pug 29th Dec 2022 09:26


Originally Posted by aapeters (Post 11356018)
Packages to Iceland - Not sure who the operator is

Sense a bit if mischief making with it, as their social media page attracted a surprising number of comments. Still, keeps people interested.

aapeters 29th Dec 2022 10:52

Yep, think people was expecting more from TUI, however bay steps - hopefully they can secure something else

pug 29th Dec 2022 11:24


Originally Posted by aapeters (Post 11356065)
Yep, think people was expecting more from TUI, however bay steps - hopefully they can secure something else

I think whilst the future of DSA is apparently up in the air there might not be the appetite to get too involved in TUI expansion. It may yet happen though.

N707ZS 17th Jan 2023 17:54

Has 2Excel got a hangar at Humberside for their Beech 200s and PA 31s.

pug 17th Jan 2023 18:20


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 11368288)
Has 2Excel got a hangar at Humberside for their Beech 200s and PA 31s.

They use the pre/existing hangar 5 I believe, seem to recall it was used for a while by one of the helicopter operators (bond or Bristow?) previously,

Could be wrong but I think they use a room in the helicopter terminal as a crew room. Expect if DSA doesn’t reopen and they decide to stay at HUY there might be the appetite to build a facility more fitting.

SWBKCB 17th Jan 2023 18:58


Expect if DSA doesn’t reopen and they decide to stay at HUY there might be the appetite to build a facility more fitting.
I wonder how much that would cost?

highwideandugly 17th Jan 2023 19:55

Government handing a lot of money to Teesside airport…just announced money for two new hangers.

The 727s are there makes sense to move the rest?

Buster the Bear 17th Jan 2023 19:59

Too far north for the Coastguard King Air fleet?

Albert Hall 17th Jan 2023 20:09

Or perhaps that the fleet now based at HUY is on a shorter contractual response time (e.g. 2 hours versus 4 for the 727s) which means that a move from DSA to MME would mean mass relocation of crew and support teams in a way that moving the 727s doesn't, as you've still got sufficient time to meet the contract response time without an expensive move of house?

pug 17th Jan 2023 20:10


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11368333)
I wonder how much that would cost?

Depends really, there must be some tie ins with the work going on at the Bristow hangar re. coastguard SAR contract. That was a purpose built facility. It would seem that they want to retain their office functions at DSA so would make sense to have a fairly local operating base, unless they moved lock stock to Teesside including the functions currently at DSA. Also, as Buster says, HUY is ideally located for the coastguard contract.

N707ZS 17th Jan 2023 23:03

Thanks for the replies. I thought there were still a number of stored S92s in the hangar mentioned.

pug 18th Jan 2023 06:42


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 11368502)
Thanks for the replies. I thought there were still a number of stored S92s in the hangar mentioned.

Think they’re in hangar 9 (Babcock?)

SWBKCB 18th Jan 2023 13:55


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 11368370)
Too far north for the Coastguard King Air fleet?

10-15 minutes flight time?

pug 18th Jan 2023 15:15


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11368893)
10-15 minutes flight time?

Probably a bit more than that but the main point is the distance between DSA and HUY being not that much is perhaps why they decided to put their fleet there. Whether there are any deals with Teesside remains to be seen, but I expect HUY is favoured for this operation for the reasons already outlined, otherwise why didn’t they just relocate the lot to Teesside from the start?

highwideandugly 18th Jan 2023 19:24

Maybe the mayor ran out of money and needed the latest government hand out to build more hangar space?

s_insania 20th Jan 2023 21:40


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 11369094)
Maybe the mayor ran out of money and needed the latest government hand out to build more hangar space?

You literally are relentless aren’t you

davidjohnson6 28th Jul 2023 08:07

Have Eastern cut the route to Esbjerg ?

pug 28th Jul 2023 08:15


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11475285)
Have Eastern cut the route to Esbjerg ?

Yes it appears to have been dropped, unsurprisingly. They originally intended to suspend it during the summer lull in business travel, but it now looks like it’s been quietly removed from the booking engine. Hardly surprising when it was seeing on average less than 10 passengers per flight. Can’t compete with the flexibility of KLM.

NQY increased to 4 x weekly, some shared with EMA so that seems to be doing ok. But if HUY want to increase passenger throughput then the only viable means of doing so is by catering to the latent demand that exists for flights to popular leisure destinations, particularly with the demise of DSA. KLM has the rest covered.

pug 9th Nov 2023 08:29

Tiny in the grand scheme of things, but looks like TUI have added a second weekly PMI for S25 this time on a Saturday which would allow for flexible stays outside of 7 or 14 nights. Judging purely by load factors on the service, I would expect a Saturday to sell even better. I understand a lot of this years flights were sellouts quite early on. Long way off yet, and things can and no doubt will change, but it’s good to see additions rather than more cut backs.


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