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cornishsimon 14th Feb 2020 10:48

im curious how having BA on LHR is going to screw up the flybe PSO London route when they themselves are operating a daily SEN on top of the LGWx4 daily

This has been on the cards for a while

I suspect this is just IAGs way of dipping a toe, they can already to an extent see connectivity demand thanks to EI so if they will the flights at decent yield im sure it will return for longer next season, it also wouldn't surprise me to see a limited LCY from them


cs

Asturias56 14th Feb 2020 10:49

"So what are the betting odds on another one hit wonder short season?"

pray the railway line at Dawlish is washed away again in one of these storms...................

rog747 15th Feb 2020 06:25


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10687440)
"So what are the betting odds on another one hit wonder short season?"

pray the railway line at Dawlish is washed away again in one of these storms...................

The rail line was washed away 6 years ago today.....cutting off Plymouth and Cornwall for months

Today we have Storm Dennis :yuk:

VickersVicount 15th Feb 2020 09:42


Originally Posted by cornishsimon (Post 10687439)
it also wouldn't surprise me to see a limited LCY from them

I would surprise me.

cornishsimon 15th Feb 2020 10:18


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 10688157)
I would surprise me.


more or less surprised than them launching This limited lhr service. ?

cs

Asturias56 15th Feb 2020 11:46

Politics............................ "connecting the regions" - and maybe they'll be able to tap a FLYBE subsidy if they're lucky

VickersVicount 15th Feb 2020 16:00


Originally Posted by cornishsimon (Post 10688176)
more or less surprised than them launching This limited lhr service. ?

cs

I would be even more surprised

cornishsimon 15th Feb 2020 16:44


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 10688444)
I would be even more surprised


well let’s watch and wait

I think there’s definitely scope for a cheeky Thursday, Friday, Monday summer service if well timed.


cs

bravoromeosierra 16th Feb 2020 12:33


Originally Posted by cornishsimon (Post 10688466)
well let’s watch and wait

I think there’s definitely scope for a cheeky Thursday, Friday, Monday summer service if well timed.


cs

Think it would be better for NQY if they focused on maturing the LHR route in the hope of a better (or all round) flying season.

davidjohnson6 26th Mar 2020 10:58

Airport closed

EGTE 26th Mar 2020 11:30

.....but the aerodrome is still open.

cornishsimon 26th Mar 2020 12:30


Originally Posted by EGTE (Post 10728738)
.....but the aerodrome is still open.



correct.

the terminal is closed. The field is open for business and I suspect will soon get a great deal of storage movements


cs

BAeuro 23rd Apr 2020 23:30

I know Covid-19 has put an end to many plans, but does anyone know what’s going to happen to the London to Newquay PSO? Will BA up their new route and try it out, or is this another one for Loganair?

cornishsimon 24th Apr 2020 09:39

My current thinking is that this is probably BAs to loose

They are going to have aircraft, crews and slots that need using and if they can use them to newquay while the economy recovers and the demand for air travel recovers all the better, especially if it’s underwritten via a pso ?


cs

bean 24th Apr 2020 11:11

CS It's not going to happen. The world has changed for good. Home working will continue even if the viris is eradicated and with the low levels of people currently testing positive for antinodies, it could continue for years.
BA will be looking to shed capacity not use it. Expect to see a much slimmer airline with consequent redundancies amongst staff and equipment. The world is already in DEEP recession

Cloud1 25th Apr 2020 08:49


Originally Posted by bean (Post 10761496)
CS It's not going to happen. The world has changed for good. Home working will continue even if the viris is eradicated and with the low levels of people currently testing positive for antinodies, it could continue for years.
BA will be looking to shed capacity not use it. Expect to see a much slimmer airline with consequent redundancies amongst staff and equipment. The world is already in DEEP recession

Another cheery post. Whilst some or all of this may be true I’m not sure I would agree that the world has changed for good thus meaning everything that we did know a couple months back will not now be required in the future.

From my perspective CS the answer is we don’t know. I do believe there will be a need for regional travel and connectivity but what that looks like, we will only know once markets and industries stabilise. Timescales will, in my view, depend largely on the antibody testing and vaccine availability as they are the only options currently on the table which would, again in my view, give customers confidence to go back to smaller confined spaces. The nonsense around keeping a middle seat free on aircraft doesn’t cut it.

Government response to any recession will be interesting too. They will want people to be spending in to the economy so staycations could very well work in Cornwalls favour for what is left of this summer and next. Fuel has typically been one of the larger costs to aviation but that’s at an all time low now, plus some restructuring to a market which could naturally thin out anyway (we don’t know which airlines will last the next 12 months).

From my perspective the question sits more around long haul. The likes of BA have a lot of aircraft with cabins which they may struggle to fill (First, Club) some of them with significant volumes of those premium seats which come at premium costs. Difficulties in selling those will push the cost of economy seats up. If the government still sees regional PSO routes a need, then BA may well benefit from operating those or expanding the CityFlyer portfolio to cover more regional flying.

Asturias56 26th Apr 2020 07:30

" so staycations could very well work in Cornwalls favour for what is left of this summer and next. "

I think a few people might remember the non-friendly attitude of some Cornish people to outsiders during this shut-down................

Willo 3D 26th Apr 2020 10:38


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10763524)
" so staycations could very well work in Cornwalls favour for what is left of this summer and next. "

I think a few people might remember the non-friendly attitude of some Cornish people to outsiders during this shut-down................

that was largely self inflicted by people going to second homes unnecessarily.

Either way, I’m not sure there will be demand for A319 2 or 3 times a day between NQY and London. Maybe as mentioned above could be good suit for BACF.

BirdmanBerry 26th Apr 2020 10:44


Originally Posted by bean (Post 10761496)
CS It's not going to happen. The world has changed for good. Home working will continue even if the viris is eradicated and with the low levels of people currently testing positive for antinodies, it could continue for years.
BA will be looking to shed capacity not use it. Expect to see a much slimmer airline with consequent redundancies amongst staff and equipment. The world is already in DEEP recession

I don't think home working will continue, it's never as good as having a team together in an office. Plus add the fact the technology has been available for years but has never been used as much as it could've. Long distance meetings may change for sure.

Curious Pax 26th Apr 2020 10:45


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10763524)
" so staycations could very well work in Cornwalls favour for what is left of this summer and next. "

I think a few people might remember the non-friendly attitude of some Cornish people to outsiders during this shut-down................

You might want to look at the p1ss poor medical facilities available in Cornwall for the locals, let alone any extra numbers visitors would bring before shooting your mouth off.


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