New C Series order from European Airline
Any clues of whom the airline might be?
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BA City Flyer - watch this space! ;)
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BA, a logical thinking, but they said already "no" early this year. Maybe now the price includes a good discount for the large order. Lufthansa is a good candidate either.
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Not Easyjet to replace 319s as they upscale to 321s for fatter routes?
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BA - yes, although up to 61 aircraft could be a bit of a stretch. Easy - yes, I'm sure there are some circumstances where it would make sense for them to have smaller aircraft. Southend, IOM...
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My bet would be AF to replace 318/319's.
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Yes, I'd be surprised if it wasn't Air France.
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EZY? Average fleet age!
https://m.planespotters.net/airline/easyJet-Group Compared to AF average fleet age! https://m.planespotters.net/airline/Air-France |
What about Flybe with its DHC connection and ageing fleet of Embraer's.
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Doubt Flybe could get a bond away into the markets for an order of that scale. Treasury at EZY or AF on the other hand could.
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Originally Posted by toledoashley
(Post 9945075)
My bet would be AF to replace 318/319's.
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And Airbus are planning to be a majority stakeholder in Bombardier, so the AF option is still very much open
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Originally Posted by Harry Wayfarers
(Post 9945181)
But AF and Airbus are both French and in bed with each other!
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Airbus may proclaim to be European but just check out the crew of the first A380 test flight(s), they were to be all French but they put a solitary German national in to the crew for shop window puposes.
Who was it that grounded Concorde between the pair of them! |
Where's the French at in repaying costs of WWII, how many tons of gold have they coughed up? Champagne EU politicians have short memories!
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Enough of a thread drift, I don't want to be told off again, back to topic please!
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So it seems a few on here are leaning towards Air France being a potential placer of that order. Easyjet are another but their fleet average age is young compared to Air France. Who else in Europe has aging A318/9 airframes nearing replacing? Aer Lingus but not to the extent they need to place an order of this scale (I don't think), unless IAG are looking to implement a strategy shift, and they see an opening in the market to exploit?
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I'm not sure on EZY. Having taken on some of Air Berlins fleet, and a focus on larger A321's they'll look to be set for a while.
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However they still have many routes which continue to operate only a few times a week using 319s, and I read elsewhere that these are being sold to United. These routes would surely operate better with a smaller a/c, assuming there is sufficient business (ie higher fare)demand.
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The LCC model is to operate with one common type, the A320 family being one type as far as crewing them are concerned, likewise the B737-6/7/8/9 family.
There have been exceptions to this rule, I've been in exile from Europe for 6 years now so perhaps out of date but recall Air Baltic opetating both Fokkers and Boeings, Air Berlin Fokkers and Airbus's and whatever else, Flybe, not strictly a LCC, operating BAE146's/Embraers of different sizes and DHC8's ... but then look at the recent difficulties Flybe have had etc. Unless crews, particularly flight crews, are to be paid a across the board salaries for, let's say, C Series and Airbus's then the good ol' pilot seniority comes in to play, need to replace an Airbus pilot then need to upgrade and retrain a C Series pilot then need to employ and train a new C Series pilot to replace, doesn't fit in with the LCC business model, double the training costs etc. etc. etc whilst if the only standby aircraft/crew of a day might be A320 to replace a technical C Series ... A very good way all round for a LCC to lose money! |
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