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JumpJumpJump 1st Nov 2017 15:19

7 Y.O. Runaway Boards EZY in Geneva.
 
A 7 year-old girl managed to run away and board an easyJet flight at Geneva Airport? without ticket | AIRLIVE.net

Didn't get as far as pushback, but this seven-year-old managed to get out of the city centre by train... Pass security at Geneva and board an EZY flight.

I think that the airport new that she was there after one crew turned her away... Hopefully more details to follow.

l.garey 1st Nov 2017 15:42

According to the local radio news, she ran away from her parents at Geneva TOWN train station about 1300, managed to get to the airport, and passed through the French side ticket check. It is then thought because she is rather small she entered between the passengers and got through the gate and security without being noticed. She was finally spotted once on board the aircraft, before being handed to the police and then to her parents!

Hotel Tango 1st Nov 2017 16:11

Easy solution to this exceptional security risk, ban all kids from airports and aircraft! :E

22/04 1st Nov 2017 16:19

I take it HT was never a father!

JumpJumpJump 1st Nov 2017 16:37


Originally Posted by Hotel Tango (Post 9943508)
Easy solution to this exceptional security risk, ban all kids from airports and aircraft! :E

Whilst I can see the obvious humour in this... Do you also accept that this is a very serious security breach?

G-CPTN 1st Nov 2017 16:48

I can easily see that a small child could attach themselves to a group of passengers without being recognised as 'not having a ticket/boarding card' - especially if there were other children among the group of adults.
As soon as the onboard passenger headcount was done there would be a discrepancy.

411A NG 1st Nov 2017 16:50

Why - was she able to take a gun airside?
If not - then I'd say it's just an oversight.
Needs to be handled better? Yes.
But not really a very serious security breach in my eyes.

goeasy 1st Nov 2017 17:07

What on board head count? Does anyone still do this?

Hotel Tango 1st Nov 2017 17:08

HT is a father and a grandfather. I think 22/04 may have failed to understand HT's little humouristic dig at the usual knee-jerk reactions one can expect after such security incidents.

JumpJumpJump, I consider all security breaches to be serious, or they would not be a security breach in the first place. Unfortunately, it's a fact of life that no security measures are 100% fullproof. The important thing is not too over react but take appropriate and sensible measures to try and avoid it happening again. Too often we see ridiculous knee-jerk reactions. Hence my little attempt at some sarcastic humour.

JumpJumpJump 1st Nov 2017 17:37

Fair enough. I guess in my haste I did forget that she probably had no bag with her and would have passed through screening and a metal detector. It isn't like she hopped over a fence. So, I get that.

G-CPTN 1st Nov 2017 17:38

Not the first time . . .
 
11-year-old boy flies from Manchester to Italy without ticket.

Capot 1st Nov 2017 18:04


Do you also accept that this is a very serious security breach?
No, of course I don't. An adventurous 7-year old is not a security threat. The fact that she managed to squeeze through the checkpoints says nothing about whether a real threat could do that.

Unless and until 7-year old girls become terrorists. And please spare me the retort that in parts of the world there are gun-toting children. I do not believe that if this girl were carrying an AK47 she would have penetrated undetected as far as she did.

Ambient Sheep 1st Nov 2017 18:37

I'm more worried as to why she felt the need to get away from her parents as far as she did...

atakacs 1st Nov 2017 18:48


Originally Posted by goeasy (Post 9943550)
What on board head count? Does anyone still do this?

Certainly done on every Easyjet flight I am taking (that's about 50 per year).

I muss say that I am very impressed by the initiative, creativity (apparently she crawled between security gates) and frankly courage of this small kid.

pax2908 1st Nov 2017 19:14

Easyjet might give her a free r/t ticket (for herself and a guest maybe).

DingerX 1st Nov 2017 21:56

Yeah, but reality check: At Geneva station (Cornavin), trains basically run to France (and that platform ain't always open), to Lausanne and beyond (non newsworthy), and GVA. If you follow the crowd at GVA rail, you end up topside at the departure terminal. The first door is France departures, and if a kid with no bags hits security at the right moment of confusion, then she's through. Two gates and a bus. AF and EZ mostly, with a couple of LX departures.

In short: if your kid hops a train at Cornavin, alert the CFF and the staff at gates 60-61.

EGPFlyer 2nd Nov 2017 00:09


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 9943634)
Certainly done on every Easyjet flight I am taking (that's about 50 per year).

I muss say that I am very impressed by the initiative, creativity (apparently she crawled between security gates) and frankly courage of this small kid.

Maybe 5 years ago... easyJet don’t do headcounts now

ExXB 2nd Nov 2017 11:12

If the flight was full-ish, she would have had a problem finding a vacant seat. Likely a flight attendant would then ask “where are your parents” and then loudly “has anyone lost a kid?” in four languages (easyjet Suisse from those gates DZ not U2).

If she had found a vacant seat adjacent to another kid, she might have got away with it.

Apparently they have already closed her route with a slab of plexiglass.

Ian W 2nd Nov 2017 12:15


Originally Posted by 411A NG (Post 9943534)
Why - was she able to take a gun airside?
If not - then I'd say it's just an oversight.
Needs to be handled better? Yes.
But not really a very serious security breach in my eyes.

Unfortunately untrue

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b00d9c3a19a62f

Use of children as bombers is increasingly common - expect it to be more so after these incidents

I don't know about Geneva, but had a child got away from parents in Germany it is an offense and the police would charge the parents with failing to control their child.

CargoOne 2nd Nov 2017 13:08

Unless I've got something wrong she was indeed screened at security point


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