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nwoody2001 5th Sep 2018 08:19

So would these additional units be acquired to cover already announced growth or would they be used to add additional growth/capacity on existing routes?

Flying Wild 5th Sep 2018 11:44


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10241445)
Hence the big recruitment campaign?

they can campaign all they like, but itís finding enough of the right crew to fill the seats. This summer itís been evident that their campaigns havenít met targets...

Plane.Silly 5th Sep 2018 12:47


So would these additional units be acquired to cover already announced growth or would they be used to add additional growth/capacity on existing routes?
A bit of both. Naturally when the B733's get replaced with the B738's, there's an increase of almost 1300 seats per week, assuming 2 rotations every day
Then any extra will go into base growth. They look to be piling more into MAN/BHX/STN all the time, and maybe some more overseas in PMI/ALC
Jet2 have been growing very well and i'd be surprised to see that stop anytime soon

pabely 5th Sep 2018 12:56


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 10241923)
A bit of both. Naturally when the B733's get replaced with the B738's, there's an increase of almost 1300 seats per week, assuming 2 rotations every day
Then any extra will go into base growth. They look to be piling more into MAN/BHX/STN all the time, and maybe some more overseas in PMI/ALC
Jet2 have been growing very well and i'd be surprised to see that stop anytime soon

Correct me if I'm wrong, is not the final outstanding new 738 delivery Jan 19, what happens to expansion after that, or is it consolidation due to brexit?

brian_dromey 5th Sep 2018 14:18


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10241927)
Correct me if I'm wrong, is not the final outstanding new 738 delivery Jan 19, what happens to expansion after that, or is it consolidation due to brexit?

I don't think its due to Brexit. I think its more to do with Boeing not offering the 738 anymore. If you want a new 737 it must be a MAX variant. Jet2 apparently got a bargain as Boeing wanted to keep the 737NG line going at full tilt until the 737MAX took over. I imagine that if Jet2 want to expand they will take 737s from the used market, as they have done even wile the new-builds arrive from Boeing, I think all the G-DRTx series have been pre-loved.

Curious Pax 6th Sep 2018 07:58


Originally Posted by Flying Wild (Post 10241292)


Rumours of a certain middle eastern 737 operator.

FWIW Flight quote FlyDubai as returning 4 738s to lessors as more MAXs are delivered to them.

sixchannel 6th Sep 2018 08:12

They'll come in handy once they've brushed the sand out of them ;-)

sixchannel 6th Sep 2018 08:43

Ex Monarch flight crew now with Jet2?
 
During an online natter last night the question was asked "wonder what happened to all the Monarch pilots?"
True the fleet was A320/321 but many will have re-trained to the 737-800 using the leased singleton based at BHX. Some, like Katie Withers (ex Easyjet before Monarch and then newly promoted Captain on Monarch A321s) will have been snapped up pronto is now FO with Virgin.
BUT, did Jet2 avail themselves of a pool of suddenly out of work Captains and FOs given their grand plans for expansion and all the new (and pre-loved) airframes coming on?
Anyone know?

Johnny [email protected] Pants 6th Sep 2018 09:54


This summer itís been evident that their campaigns havenít met targets
I believe that the numbers that were targeted were met, now whether the number on the target was correct is open to opinion.

Plane.Silly 6th Sep 2018 11:17


Correct me if I'm wrong, is not the final outstanding new 738 delivery Jan 19, what happens to expansion after that, or is it consolidation due to brexit?
Yes the last Brand new 737-8MG is due in January, which then concludes the order of 30.


I don't think its due to Brexit. I think its more to do with Boeing not offering the 738 anymore. If you want a new 737 it must be a MAX variant. Jet2 apparently got a bargain as Boeing wanted to keep the 737NG line going at full tilt until the 737MAX took over. I imagine that if Jet2 want to expand they will take 737s from the used market, as they have done even wile the new-builds arrive from Boeing, I think all the G-DRTx series have been pre-loved.
Agree with you here Brian. The NG's complement the 738's that Jet2 already had, so didn't make sense to mix NG's and MAX's at this stage, thats probably anywhere between 5-15 years time i would imagine. It's certainly plausible the order would have helped Boeing keep pace while the Max got up to scratch, especially when you consider Jet2 were getting upto 4 delivered per month at one point. Any discount they got would have likely reflected that.


FWIW Flight quote FlyDubai as returning 4 738s to lessors as more MAXs are delivered to them.
Jet2 have bought from lessors before, who will likely take the extra cash now to finance any MAX orders, so these could very well be in contention

Ahhh i can breathe again...

Buster the Bear 7th Sep 2018 18:35

Norwegian have very recently sold 5 x Boeing737-800s, I did wonder if they might be bound for Jet2?

Flitefone 7th Sep 2018 18:43


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10243769)
Norwegian have very recently sold 5 x Boeing737-800s, I did wonder if they might be bound for Jet2?

Not likely - newly withdrawn Norwegian 738 EI-FJG departed BOH this afternoon, now in Fly-Bondi colours, Argentina bound rather than Leeds.

FF

castleford tiger 8th Sep 2018 13:43

Attended the AGM this week and the key points are
We are slightly above the 25% capacity increase for the year so load factor up.
A slight move back to holidays v flights maybe 51/49
The company will do 3 m holidays this year. 12m are booked each year so plenty up for grabs.
No new bases discussed but we will be flying over 100 frames next summer.

We are looking at another big order to be placed in approx. 2 years .
We are looking at the MAX or even an airbus deal when we retire the 757 fleet but that's a few years away.
Anyone out there know how many more years we can keep them going.
More discussion about PM retiring and that was a firm NO
He and Steve like being on the 4 am airport tours.

The company has a very high return rate with its customers and rolling out things like resort check in keeps the punter happy.
Taking 85 planes with 165 seats doing 2 trips a day = 28,000 x7 =196 k a week
With holidays averaging 60k over the year ( it must be 90k a week in the summer) then I can see how close to capacity we are.

I remain of the opinion the shares are undervalued and much better than TCG who are loosing customers.

Simplythebeast 8th Sep 2018 14:24

Having issues with Jet2 and their ‘Operational Reasons’ cover all dor flight cancellations.
My Flight from LBA to Berlin was cancelled on 20th August and as a result I lost my hotel booking costs, car hire, etc etc.
I have contacted Jet2 re flight cancellation compensation and theyve not bothered replying yet. (I understand tht is normal for them).
My travel insurance claim has been rejected becauses Jet2 wont tell my insurer why the flight was cancelled, just that it was for operational reasons and my insurer says that isnt reason to pay out.
How can I find out the actual reason for the cancellation of that flight? I suspect the aircraft went tech because there were three cancellations which I believe were probably all going to be operated by the same airframe.
Any help much appreciated.

irishlad06 8th Sep 2018 17:35


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10241202)
Are the sources for the mid-life 738s already known and shareable?


Are all the G-CELx frames being retired WFU or are any being sold on?
Doesnt that mean Jersey is then off the list once the 300s are gone - and possibly other short / restricted fields?


the plan is for LE, LX, LH and LV to be retired over the coming months from October onwards.

sixchannel 8th Sep 2018 18:06

LS171 MAN-IBZ diverted to TLS
 
This afternoons flight with G-DRTD diverted to Toulouse, somewhat sharpish if looking at FR24.
Anyone know why? I know it probably unfair to say it but TLS seems to be favourite dropping point for in flight drunks en route to Ibiza but of course it could be that their ex - Transaero aircraft has gone tech en route.

Chesty Morgan 8th Sep 2018 19:15

Or, more likely, a simple medical diversion.

sixchannel 8th Sep 2018 20:41


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 10244382)
Or, more likely, a simple medical diversion.

Possibly, but the aircraft was a long time on the ground and left TLS at 22.17 local under EXS11P bound, I guess for MAN. Never made it to IBZ. G- DRTD at cruising altitude so doesnt ''seem' to be lame..
Also G-LSAH is ex-MAN as EXS010P. Any bets on it landing at TLS in about less than an hour from now?
Can someone explain the codes and the (seemingly to me) odd behaviour of G-DRTD?
Just nosey.

sixchannel 8th Sep 2018 21:24


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10244449)
Possibly, but the aircraft was a long time on the ground and left TLS at 22.17 local under EXS11P bound, I guess for MAN. Never made it to IBZ. G- DRTD at cruising altitude so doesnt ''seem' to be lame..
Also G-LSAH is ex-MAN as EXS010P. Any bets on it landing at TLS in about less than an hour from now?
Can someone explain the codes and the (seemingly to me) odd behaviour of G-DRTD?
Just nosey.

LSAH landed TLS at 23.20 local.
DRTD still en route back to UK - MAN or even LBA I wonder?

Johnny [email protected] Pants 8th Sep 2018 22:16

It was a very unpleasant medical situation that lead to DRTD diverting to TLS.


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