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LiamNCL 11th Aug 2018 19:29


Originally Posted by GrahamK (Post 10220957)
Newcastle one of the smaller bases now

Same size as GLA & EDI isnt it ? apart from GLA is all 738.

DanAir89 12th Aug 2018 06:19


Originally Posted by GrahamK (Post 10220957)
Newcastle one of the smaller bases now

i thought the gist of the post was “why after supporting and contributing Jet2.com’s growth to where it is now do newcastle passengers not get any shinny new 738’s to travel on??? “ The aging 733’s and 757’s and their technical problems on flights from/to NCL were regularly featured in the Eveing Chronicle so the basing of some new aircraft would be ”compensation” for this!!

That said I’ve only been on older 738’s with Jet2, never had any problems and think the whole passenger experience from arriving at the airport is the best a holiday company offers.

but back to the original question is there is an internal policy that says no new 738’s to be based at NCL in the summer for more ythan a few days?🤔

SWBKCB 12th Aug 2018 07:26

No 757's based at NCL for a few years now (despite what the Chronicle's photo editor thinks...).

It has been suggested earlier on this thread that the "new" 738's have a different spares package than the older machines, so it makes sense to concentrate them in a limited number of bases. Seems reasonable.

LiamNCL 12th Aug 2018 08:01

Dont get me wrong the older 738s are very tidy but im a fan of the sky interior as i imagine alot of people who have been on both would agree i just thought with the amount of new 8MG models they have that they would be spread about.

DanAir89 12th Aug 2018 08:09


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10221336)
No 757's based at NCL for a few years now (despite what the Chronicle's photo editor thinks...).

It has been suggested earlier on this thread that the "new" 738's have a different spares package than the older machines, so it makes sense to concentrate them in a limited number of bases. Seems reasonable.


Had seen that but it seems it’s not been a problem in the winter when they do stay at NCL!

SWBKCB 12th Aug 2018 08:34


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 10221355)
Dont get me wrong the older 738s are very tidy but im a fan of the sky interior as i imagine alot of people who have been on both would agree i just thought with the amount of new 8MG models they have that they would be spread about.

Why? If the new interior is such a difference this would just give an inconsistent product across the base.

LiamNCL 12th Aug 2018 13:30


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10221375)
Why? If the new interior is such a difference this would just give an inconsistent product across the base.

Well it is a big difference in my opinion the sky interior is more spacious but it doesnt stop LBA GLA MAN EDI having mixed 738s and as posted above NCL is mixed in winter regardless of spares.

Dropoffcharge 12th Aug 2018 17:31

Ref the future
 
Has been rumoured recently about expansion with a possible new base opening up in the south/south west region, as is a massive catchment area available there, as to if this is just pie in the sky who knows.

easyflyer83 12th Aug 2018 21:43


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 10215877)
Please, Everyone, can we drop this now.

Jet2 have apologised and offered compensation (money off next booking). Out of all the UK airlines, i would imagine Jet2 would be the best suited to take this on board and learn from it. If this happened on FR/U2 for example, nothing would get done
Simple errors occur every day, and yes it's a shame they've run to the media. If only everyone else kept their problems to themselves as well.

Based on what? Are you aware that easyJet these days has a group made up of disability experts and chaired by Lord David Blunkett no less?

castleford tiger 13th Aug 2018 18:12

Anyone know what happened on the faro flight diverted to Bordeaux last Friday.

Not sure it was a jet 2 plane? But operating FAO LBA due in mid afternoon. 252/251?

thanks in advance

tiger

sixchannel 13th Aug 2018 19:28


Originally Posted by Dropoffcharge (Post 10221799)
Has been rumoured recently about expansion with a possible new base opening up in the south/south west region, as is a massive catchment area available there, as to if this is just pie in the sky who knows.

IIRC the earlier concensus was that there ISN'T a sufficiently large enough catchment of potential customers to justify a Jet2 cache of aircraft at CWL, BRS or its baby sister EXT.
I had wondered (once) if BOH might be suitable but the above comment probably applies there too.
Personally, from the "north", i.e. Worcester and similar, BRS is a complete pain to get to, CWL easier (been there, done that), and EXE too far.

PDXCWL45 13th Aug 2018 19:31


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10222769)
IIRC the earlier concensus was that there ISN'T a sufficiently large enough catchment of potential customers to justify a Jet2 cache of aircraft at CWL, BRS or its baby sister EXT.
I had wondered (once) if BOH might be suitable but the above comment probably applies there too.
Personally, from the "north", i.e. Worcester and similar, BRS is a complete pain to get to, CWL easier (been there, done that), and EXE too far.

Bristol is one of the richest areas in the UK! It's catchment encompasses the entire South West of the UK. I'd shocked if Jet2 didn't open up a base there in the immediate future and I'd have thought BRS would be there next base.
Any future expansion will depend upon where they can get the aircraft and the pilots to operate them

sixchannel 13th Aug 2018 19:58

Spello
 

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10222772)
Bristol is one of the richest areas in the UK! It's catchment encompasses the entire South West of the UK. I'd shocked if Jet2 didn't open up a base there in the immediate future and I'd have thought BRS would be there next base.
Any future expansion will depend upon where they can get the aircraft and the pilots to operate them

BRS - maybe so but its a cow to get to from north of the area.

RVF750 13th Aug 2018 20:02

The aircraft is the main issue. There are simply no more "Mid life" B738 about to buy or lease any more. The production line has effectively finished for the NG so only sold units are now being completed and mixed with Max production, much as the last classics went out the door around the first NGs. (Most of the Classics still left are of that vintage- the very last ones made). If they want more aircraft, it's got to be the Max. No choice, unless they can buy mid lifers from companies accelerating replacement of their fleets to Max.

LBIA 13th Aug 2018 20:50


Originally Posted by castleford tiger (Post 10222705)
Anyone know what happened on the faro flight diverted to Bordeaux last Friday.

Not sure it was a jet 2 plane? But operating FAO LBA due in mid afternoon. 252/251?

thanks in advance

tiger

Aircraft in question was the leased Titan Airways Boeing 757-200, G-POWH. It suffered an inflight cabin pressure failure https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-e...a4a506734c476c

sixchannel 13th Aug 2018 20:50


Originally Posted by RVF750 (Post 10222792)
The aircraft is the main issue. There are simply no more "Mid life" B738 about to buy or lease any more. The production line has effectively finished for the NG so only sold units are now being completed and mixed with Max production, much as the last classics went out the door around the first NGs. (Most of the Classics still left are of that vintage- the very last ones made). If they want more aircraft, it's got to be the Max. No choice, unless they can buy mid lifers from companies accelerating replacement of their fleets to Max.

When Monarch went to the wall, what happened to their big order for Max's - did Boeing simply unplug it from their production schedule and everyone shuffled up a bit nearer the front of the queue - or what?

sixchannel 13th Aug 2018 20:57


Originally Posted by LBIA (Post 10222839)
Aircraft in question was the leased Titan Airways Boeing 757-200, G-POWH. It suffered an inflight cabin pressure failure https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-e...a4a506734c476c

Love that expression "dropped" thousands of feet. Makes it sound like an elevator.
Rescue flight (lol) G-LSAE (757) flew MAN - BOD late Friday afternoon, then BOD - LBA getting everyone home before 10pm.
G-POWH left Bordeaux bright and early on Sunday morning 12/8 for STN not above 10k. Obviously now at the Menders.
Great recovery by Jet2.

nwoody2001 13th Aug 2018 21:20

Jet2 clearly stated that when they posted their EOY financial result that they had no plans to open a new based within the UK for the foreseeable future and growth with be focused towards expansion of its new and existing bases!

Flying Wild 13th Aug 2018 22:04


Originally Posted by nwoody2001 (Post 10222858)
Jet2 clearly stated that when they posted their EOY financial result that they had no plans to open a new based within the UK for the foreseeable future and growth with be focused towards expansion of its new and existing bases!

Yes, but this is an airline/tour operator whose Executive Chairman isn’t one to miss an opportunity if one presents itself. If the conditions are right, then all could change in an instant.

shamrock7seal 14th Aug 2018 04:37


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10222772)
Bristol is one of the richest areas in the UK! It's catchment encompasses the entire South West of the UK. I'd shocked if Jet2 didn't open up a base there in the immediate future and I'd have thought BRS would be there next base.
Any future expansion will depend upon where they can get the aircraft and the pilots to operate them


Bristol is absolutely stunning in terms of pax and destinations - but it already has 15 easyJet based aircraft and 4 with Ryanair. Thomas Cook and TUI also base up to 7/8 aircraft at the airport so perhaps it wouldn't be a good choice for yet another bucket and spade operator? Jet2 have proven that they can effectively compete with Ryanair but the dilution effect of a sizeable Jet2 base at BRS on the other carriers based there could be dangerous for BRS and they may be cautious with a deal. The new CEO at BRS knows this all too well coming from SOU. CWL would be interesting since the airport would be hungry for them for sure. BOH is vacant.


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