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sixchannel 12th Jun 2018 14:39

Jersey?
 
Question for those in the Jet2 know - maybe its it's been happening for ages but I have just seen that Jet2 operate some Leeds -Jersey flights but cant see any Jet2 associated holidays. So - is this just a Summer flight thing amd will it ever get opened out to other bases like BHX?

BHD2BFS 12th Jun 2018 14:39

Does anyone know why BFS is the only airport Jet2 donít self handle at? Will they ever?

BHX5DME 12th Jun 2018 15:04

I believe they only self handle when they reach a particular number of based units, so BHX has gone self handling this year as we have 9 based a/c

Plane.Silly 12th Jun 2018 15:29

I heard the magic number for them is 7 a/c before self handling, which is why every base bar BFS (4 a/c) has it

Mooncrest 12th Jun 2018 17:39

Jet2 do not self-handle at Newcastle, Glasgow and Edinburgh, not just Belfast.

lbalad 12th Jun 2018 18:35

Jersey
 

Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10171417)
Question for those in the Jet2 know - maybe its it's been happening for ages but I have just seen that Jet2 operate some Leeds -Jersey flights but cant see any Jet2 associated holidays. So - is this just a Summer flight thing amd will it ever get opened out to other bases like BHX?

Jet2holidays do offer Jersey,its listed under channel islands.As far as I know its a summer only route may to sept.I booked flights for £75 return for a weekend in Sept,and brand new premier inn separately.

sixchannel 12th Jun 2018 18:40


Originally Posted by lbalad (Post 10171573)
Jet2holidays do offer Jersey,its listed under channel islands.As far as I know its a summer only route may to sept.I booked flights for £75 return for a weekend in Sept,and brand new premier inn separately.

Quite so. But Leeds only AFAICT. I see no listing from MAN or BHX using the Jet2com App anyway.

Plane.Silly 13th Jun 2018 06:59

Correct, just LBAJER, no MAN/BHX/STN option.
They've been dipping their toe in the water with the shorter flights (EGC and LRH). so it might be on the cards, who knows?
The big problem for them though, is would they be able to fill a B738 on these short sectors (since Jet2 are phasing the B733 out and MAN/BHX/STN have no B733's based). 189 seats might be too much for them.
Routes like that would be better suited to smaller A/c. Flybe's -8's and E-jets spring to mind as suitable, but they're just incompatable with Jet2 and their core market

PDXCWL45 13th Jun 2018 07:10


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 10171858)
Correct, just LBAJER, no MAN/BHX/STN option.
They've been dipping their toe in the water with the shorter flights (EGC and LRH). so it might be on the cards, who knows?
The big problem for them though, is would they be able to fill a B738 on these short sectors (since Jet2 are phasing the B733 out and MAN/BHX/STN have no B733's based). 189 seats might be too much for them.
Routes like that would be better suited to smaller A/c. Flybe's -8's and E-jets spring to mind as suitable, but they're just incompatable with Jet2 and their core market

Another option would be to partner up with Flybe and uae them for the flights. A partnership with Flybe could give Jet2 holidays the option of including smaller airport's in their network without having to open bases.

azz767 13th Jun 2018 09:48


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 10171858)
Correct, just LBAJER, no MAN/BHX/STN option.
They've been dipping their toe in the water with the shorter flights (EGC and LRH). so it might be on the cards, who knows?
The big problem for them though, is would they be able to fill a B738 on these short sectors (since Jet2 are phasing the B733 out and MAN/BHX/STN have no B733's based). 189 seats might be too much for them.
Routes like that would be better suited to smaller A/c. Flybe's -8's and E-jets spring to mind as suitable, but they're just incompatable with Jet2 and their core market

i may be wrong but I'm sure it's because the 738 is too big for jersey. The EZY 319 seems to be pushing it every time I land there, I think it's LBA only as MAN, BHX etc don't have 733's. I know TOM used to operate the 733 their before they got rid of their final two examples. Again I assume they binned it because jersey can't handle a 738

Bam Thwok 13th Jun 2018 10:42


Originally Posted by azz767 (Post 10171971)


i may be wrong but I'm sure it's because the 738 is too big for jersey. The EZY 319 seems to be pushing it every time I land there, I think it's LBA only as MAN, BHX etc don't have 733's. I know TOM used to operate the 733 their before they got rid of their final two examples. Again I assume they binned it because jersey can't handle a 738

Youíre entirely right..... itís down to landing performance. Even in one of the new SFP 800ís itís very limited.
Landing Rwy26 on an ISA day on a wet runway would only allow for a payload of around 10 ton..... thatís bout 100-110 pax.

Plane.Silly 13th Jun 2018 12:08


Another option would be to partner up with Flybe and uae them for the flights. A partnership with Flybe could give Jet2 holidays the option of including smaller airport's in their network without having to open bases.
A very intriguing and valid suggestion. I suspect ultimately they wouldn't go for it as they seem to pride themselves on using their own crew/planes for the entire package.
Before the B733 is scrapped for good, another thought would be to operate W patterns (i.e LBA-JER-MAN-JER-BHX-JER-LBA [on a short sector they could probably squeeze 3 rotations per day]


that’s bout 100-110 pax.
Perfect for a -8 then :)

sixchannel 13th Jun 2018 12:19

The end of the -300s?
 
So maybe Jet2 are just getting the most out of the remaining G-CEL series while they can. Don't know how many are left now.
After that it looks like JER will go. Are the two French airfields -800 capable?
Cant see them tying up with anyone permanently. Jet2 seem fiercely Brand and airframe loyal. Unless of course, they draft in Summer Renters with Jet2 basic graphics.

azz767 13th Jun 2018 12:46

I'm surprised was they never went for 737-700's to replace the 733's for thinner routes and smaller bases, using the old jet2 method of cherry picking solid used frames and maintaining them impeccably. cant imagine them being too hard to source

sixchannel 13th Jun 2018 17:34


Originally Posted by Council Van (Post 10172302)
Not at all, it is all down to overall cost, not just of deals on the airframe but all aspects of operating the aircraft, engineering costs, flight crew costs, traning, buying sims, fuel, engine wear life and overhall costs, push back kit etc etc etc. They look at everything in minute detail and do what is best for the business.


Brand loyalty is zero unless it gets BIG discounts.

As a retired very senior Purchasing Professional that is Music to my ears. So good to know that there is tight control on costs. As I used to bang on to my trainee buyers - it's not just about the purchase price. Its the TCP - the total cost of that purchase as so well put above. Amen.

Buster the Bear 13th Jun 2018 18:25

One more remaining airframe at Lasham from the 4 ex Transaero B738s and this is currently undergoing heavy maintenance prior to delivery.

sixchannel 14th Jun 2018 08:40


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10172341)
One more remaining airframe at Lasham from the 4 ex Transaero B738s and this is currently undergoing heavy maintenance prior to delivery.

Is that a lovely euphemism for realising you bought a Banger and are busy rebuilding it from the ground up? 😀

OltonPete 14th Jun 2018 18:44

YL-LCV
 

Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10169841)
Having managed to drag LS1203/4 from a slightly late ex BHX departure to slightly early return landing, the departure of LS1229 to FUE two hours later was an hour late out of the blocks. How does this occur ---Smartwings LCLCY has managed this feat on its 3 consecutive fortnightly rotations?

Not posting this to deliberately to wind you up as I am sure you would have found out anyway but your favourite aircraft only made a quick skip to Northern France this afternoon on BHX--RHO and is now back at BHX with a 757 on turnaround to recover the schedule. To be fair to it this week had been quite good until today. Nothing on Jet2 to say if it was medical (and thus crew hours) or technical but excellent recovery again by Jet2 - The 321 landed 16.47 and the 757 was in BHX within a couple of hours although it appears to have been resting since 11 June per FR24.

Pete

Pete

sixchannel 14th Jun 2018 19:04


Originally Posted by OltonPete (Post 10173064)
Not posting this to deliberately to wind you up as I am sure you would have found out anyway but your favourite aircraft only made a quick skip to Northern France this afternoon on BHX--RHO and is now back at BHX with a 757 on turnaround to recover the schedule. To be fair to it this week had been quite good until today. Nothing on Jet2 to say if it was medical (and thus crew hours) or technical but excellent recovery again by Jet2 - The 321 landed 16.47 and the 757 was in BHX within a couple of hours although it appears to have been resting since 11 June per FR24.

Pete

Pete

Not at all, Pete.
If its Tech, its turning out not the most reliable Renter. I did see the 757 do a MAN-BHX Now i know why. Jet2 seem pretty capable of recovering a duff situation.
But hey, guess who's on LS1229 on Sunday? I wouldnt take a bet against it being "my favourite aircraft". I has been on the 3 previous fortnightly rotations. Wonder what time we'll get there? Lol

sixchannel 16th Jun 2018 11:03

EXS051B?
 
G-GDFD just departed MAN at 11.54 with no destination declared on FR24. Its a MAN based aircraft and at the momet looks to be heading out over Irish Sea. Is EXS051B a training flight code or is it a rescue month mission to Belfast? Just nosey.
EDIT - I think i just answered myself. Code used on previous two days for what looking like MAN-MAN training flights.


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