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Flying Wild 25th May 2018 08:29


Originally Posted by Council Van (Post 10156327)
The other 700 odd pilots in the company might have a different opinion but so far for me it appears that there are plenty of crews at my base so far this year, the company appear to be doing the best they can to avoid roster changes and make a big thing of trying to improving roster stability.

I have not been asked to work a day off for over two years.

I understand that around 140 new pilots have joined the company for the summer season and some training is still on going.

I guess we will find out if Jet2 have enough pilots over the next 16 weeks.

Given the number of changes I and some of my colleagues have been having over the last few weeks, plus many out of base crews operating at our base, I'd say there's a fire fighting approach to crewing at the moment.

Johnny [email protected] Pants 26th May 2018 16:31


No Johnny - are you?
In which case Irishlad how on earth would you know

Jet2 are one of the few companies that are actually fully crewed. They are one of the only companies that crew to 100% and don’t rely on pilots to work on their days off for x amount of money unlike nearly every other airline in the UK.
??

Or

I woukdnt say say they are under crewed
that?



are you?
- Yes I am.

irishlad06 27th May 2018 00:49

Well Johnny - how many working days off have u sold back to the company in the last year or two?

Go work for TUI and u can count on two hands per month - at jet2.com u won’t have done 5 WDO’s in a year - totally unheard of as flight deck.

While yes yes there are a number of flights in June not covered on the roster it’s nithing compared to other airlines. While it might be 15 flights for the month - other airlines are 15 flights per day not covered.

geordiejet 27th May 2018 03:57


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10157776)
Well Johnny - how many working days off have u sold back to the company in the last year or two?

Go work for TUI and u can count on two hands per month - at jet2.com u won’t have done 5 WDO’s in a year - totally unheard of as flight deck.

While yes yes there are a number of flights in June not covered on the roster it’s nithing compared to other airlines. While it might be 15 flights for the month - other airlines are 15 flights per day not covered.

Why am I getting deja vue here when I read your fanatically pro LS posts? Is that you Jet2_737-800?

Bam Thwok 27th May 2018 04:33

irishlad........ you make many bold statements professing to be in the know regarding Jet2, but clearly you know absolutely nowt

Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10155867)


No Johnny - are you?

The little fact that you don’t even know who Johnny is (and it’s no secret) blows you out of the water....

You clearly state you aren’t “aircrew” with Jet2, but feel that you have to post bold statements on here regarding our crewing issues ..... ??

But best of all, you now bring TUI into your argument......are you a self professed expert with all things TUI too ?
Your argument comparing days off worked by “aircrew” in both companies only proves how ignorant and naive you truly are.





Johnny [email protected] Pants 27th May 2018 08:43

Thank you BamBam.

Irishlad - Tui operate a totally different rostering/Crewing philosophy at the moment as far as I know. Their system will always have flights not covered, they pay handsomely for crew to give up their days off to cover those flights. This was shown when it was first introduced to save money in the long run by having less crew in the payroll. I understand that this is now under review.

I am am not going to start to get into any sort of numbers here in public, but I KNOW that your information is presently way off the mark.

LiamNCL 27th May 2018 13:56


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10155529)

They even go go as far as having up to 5 aircraft on standby at any one time that can be launched within an hour that have crews waiting at airports for them.

I woukdnt say say they are under crewed -

NCL - LEI got as far as coventry before turning back this morning and still hasnt departed again and as a result LS555 NCL - IBZ is now cancelled so i would say that 5 aircraft standby is nonsense.

SWBKCB 27th May 2018 15:17


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 10158261)
NCL - LEI got as far as coventry before turning back this morning and still hasnt departed again and as a result LS555 NCL - IBZ is now cancelled so i would say that 5 aircraft standby is nonsense.

G-GDFE posn in to op LS551 to LEI, which departed about 16.00

Johnny [email protected] Pants 28th May 2018 09:40


so i would say that 5 aircraft standby is nonsense
Actually, that bit is just about right, however those 5 are occasionally all being used to help keep the program on the go due to delays, therefore there are occasions when, despite the best laid plans, things don't go accordingly.

sixchannel 28th May 2018 09:47

Is that why Jet2 rent?
 
Is that why Jet2 , as well as all the trumpet blowing about their new Boeings also rent 14 year old aircraft like the A321 YL-LCV?
Just askin' :-)

chaps1954 28th May 2018 15:34

You bring extra aircraft in for the summer as otherwise they will sit around all winter which is a very expensive business and
not needed as do Thomas Cook and TUI and most other holiday airline in Europe.

Johnny [email protected] Pants 28th May 2018 15:43



Posts: 8
Is that why Jet2 rent?Is that why Jet2 , as well as all the trumpet blowing about their new Boeings also rent 14 year old aircraft like the A321 YL-LCV?
Now that post really makes you appear that you really don’t know what you are talking about. Jet2 lease in aeroplanes over the summer to add capacity, then in the winter those aeroplanes go back to their airline and aren’t on the books. I have no idea what relevance our brand new aeroplanes has to do with your post at all, perhaps you could explain yourself??

sixchannel 28th May 2018 17:12

Just askin'!!
 
I was only askin' why!
Jet2 is a lovely airline and since March have flown on JZHS, JZHU, JZHW and JZBB out of BHX - all lovely and newish with great flght crew everytime. And this fits with their press etc about "16 new aircraft in 12 months" and so on.
then i see that LS1229/1230 has run recently using a Smartlynx renter which I assume uses no Jet2 employees (put me right please if thats wrong) and its 14 yrs old.
It was a question about why that happens not a poke at my favourite airline. So there. lol.

Johnny [email protected] Pants 28th May 2018 18:41

Then it’s the way you ask that requires some modification as it doesn’t come across in that manner.

sixchannel 28th May 2018 19:04

Sorry
 
Captain Johnny, as they say round here - "Soree, ay I"
New to all this - just trying to find out how things work.
if I knew how to edit my post I would.
My interest purely stemmed from looking at FR and noting that LCY isnt top of the pops when it comes to on time deps. Eg - today's flight to Rhodes. Extenuating circs probably prevailed.

Johnny [email protected] Pants 29th May 2018 10:02

sixchannel

Ok, thanks for the explanation.


My interest purely stemmed from looking at FR and noting that LCY isnt top of the pops when it comes to on time deps
- none of those delays would have been down to it being 14 years old, which even for an Airbus, isn't old. They would be more likely down to slots due to French ATC strikes and then the thunderstorms round Europe this last few days.

To edit a post, click the symbol in the right corner of your post where it says EDIT.

Flying Wild 29th May 2018 10:39


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10159186)
I was only askin' why!

then i see that LS1229/1230 has run recently using a Smartlynx renter which I assume uses no Jet2 employees (put me right please if thats wrong)

You're wrong. It has flight deck from Smartlynx, but the cabin crew are Jet2.

Plane.Silly 29th May 2018 13:49

On top of this, most/if not all leases are damp leases (aircraft and pilots are owned by the lessor, cabin crew are Jet2's)
This applies to the Titans, Air Europa and Air Tanker leases, that i know of

toledoashley 30th May 2018 08:11

TTG reporting no new bases - https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/j...c-demand-14320

LBIA 30th May 2018 08:28

Titan Airways Boeing 737-400, G-POWS operating out of LBA today for Jet2


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