Unusual for a lightning strike I would have thought. As I'm not familiar with the Max and given that he came straight back in without holding to burn off excess fuel, would that have been an overweight landing?

MTOW = 181,200 lbs
MLW = 152,800 lbs
MZFW = 145,400 lbs
OEW = 99,360 lbs
MDFC = 25,941lbs

Probably not an overweight landing given the likely payload at this time of year. but I'm just guessing.

If an aircraft needs to return, there is a safety LDW so it can land above MLDW as long as it’s within the safety buffer, which can fluctuate dependant on Zerofuel situation.

Aren’t EasyJet also on the EDI route, three airlines would definitely kill yield??

EasyJet are O&D. Wow and Icelandair have a significant amount of connecting traffic onward to the US & Canada.

There’s quite a large number of self connections on the Easyjet. Fly Wow & FI to KEF and then stay a few days before flying to EDI. They’re mainly young USA & CAN and few CHN students. They don’t seem to think about fares from Wow and FI that allow stopovers.

Does anyone know the summer 2018 schedule for norwegian at edinburgh?

For TATL it will be:

SWF at 4x per week
PVD at 3x per week

Ok thanks that is quite a downgrade from last years american routes by norwegian

Yes, One aircraft has been moved to Dublin in order to begin the double daily to SWF.

Yes I believe in this case it’s another reduction due to the failure of the SG to cut APD as promised. No such problem in Dublin.

why would APD effects be unique to Norwegian transatlantic at EDI?

CabinCrewe - Norwegian are trying out a new ULCC model for transatlantic with the MAX. Part of that plan was a reduction in APD, which hasn’t materialised. To stimulate the demand it needs low pricing, but they cant make the sort of yield they want on it with the APD as it is. Therefore they have shifted the focus to Ireland.

It won't be unique to Norwegian TATL at EDI as we have also seen FR can most of their GLA network as a result of this. As has been mentioned, for their business model on the TATL routes, APD at current levels is a huge barrier. More money to be made at Dublin and better chance of stimulating demand with lower prices overall.

or you could say, in the case of both Norwegian TA and FR, the product is so poor you can only sell it at rock bottom prices which APD stops you doing.

I wouldn’t say that though as I don’t think the product is poor. It serves a specific market.

Exactly - a specific market for which price is the be all and end all.

Yes but that does not mean the product is poor. Norwegian offer free WiFi for instance which is not universal throughout the airline world.

Obviously there are different views re this but if I had the choice of flying transatlantic on a 737 or, say, a 777, free wi fi wouldn't sway me.

Norwegian knew the APD situation when they started the routes. I'm told that they had apparently under-estimated the impact this would have ex US in particular, where they started to sell the same lead-in fares ex PVD and SWF to EDI as for DUB, ORK, SNN and BFS but of course, APD has to be deducted ex EDI. Unsurprisingly their yields are far stronger at the other airports than EDI, therefore capacity is being switched across.

They knew the score when they launched but missed a beat by recognising the impact of APD - and you can hardly blame the Scottish Government for that one.