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Flightrider 27th Nov 2019 21:53

To be fair - a tendency which doesn't come readily to me - both WestJet and Icelandair have applied for slots at EDI for Summer 2020. They both have done so on previous occasions and have not launched services, and there is nothing to suggest that this time will be any different. However, an application for slots by the carriers does at least indicate *some* passing interest in serving the EDI market.

nighthawk117 28th Nov 2019 08:22

I'd say it's just a matter of time... both are routes that work well from GLA, so should do equally well from EDI.

However, both airlines are struggling for capacity with the MAX still being grounded, so I doubt there'll be any announcements until a timescale for that returning to the air is announced.

willy wombat 28th Nov 2019 09:29

I have a question re EDI stand planning. I frequently use EZY from/to LGW and the flights frequently use gates 2/3/4. Yesterday afternoon the LGW was on gate 3 and the BRS on gate 2. Not only does this lead to loads of congestion as the arriving pax try to push past the pax queuing for departure (and yesterday the LGW and BRS queues got totally mixed up with each other) but it means that arriving pax have to walk the whole length of the departure lounge to get to domestic arrivals. Would it not make more sense to allocate gates nearer to domestic arrivals for these flights? It was not exactly busy yesterday afternoon - plenty of contact stands available. One other point re the EDI terminal - a nasty pinch point has been created between Weatherspoons and Burger King with pax walking in both directions causing congestion. I'm surprised the fire service allows it.

Plane mad 134 28th Nov 2019 09:39

Tui add new 1x weekly Sharm El Sheikh starting 2nd November 2020. Great news and is the first African route in a while.

inOban 28th Nov 2019 10:49

Sharm-el-Sheik isn't in Africa. Wrong side of the Suez canal.

Sk1schoolsam 28th Nov 2019 11:55


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10628267)
Sharm-el-Sheik isn't in Africa. Wrong side of the Suez canal.

Accoding to the internet of things:

”Although Egypt sits in the north of the Africancontinent it is considered by many to be a Middle Eastern country, partly because the main spoken language there is Egyptian Arabic, the main religion is Islam and it is a member of the Arab League.”

😊😊😊

Sk1schoolsam 28th Nov 2019 12:05


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10628221)
Tui add new 1x weekly Sharm El Sheikh starting 2nd November 2020. Great news and is the first African route in a while.

Positive news, I wonder what frame they will use for this as the return leg is quoted as 6hrs 25 mins. Out with a 738’s flight range? Possibly a 757 (doubt it would be 767 or Dreamliner)

inOban 28th Nov 2019 12:12

Precisely. Most of Egypt is geographically in Africa, including Hurghada, even though the population is Arabic. But AFAIK, the geographical boundary between Africa and Asia is the Canal, so the Sinai is in Asia.


ROC10 28th Nov 2019 13:49


Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam (Post 10628301)


Positive news, I wonder what frame they will use for this as the return leg is quoted as 6hrs 25 mins. Out with a 738’s flight range? Possibly a 757 (doubt it would be 767 or Dreamliner)

They used the 738 on this route before so it is capable. The MAX is also planned to be based at EDI upon its return so it will likely be that, definitely not a 757.

Plane mad 134 28th Nov 2019 18:46

I have feeling Jet2 to Lisbon will be announced next week, watch this space.

inOban 28th Nov 2019 19:19

That would seem unlikely since the route is already served by both EZY and FR
They've dropped out of Vienna and will soon drop Budapest where there is LCC competition.

ld0595 28th Nov 2019 19:28

Where's this rumour coming from...?

DUB19 28th Nov 2019 21:18


Originally Posted by ld0595 (Post 10628560)
Where's this rumour coming from...?

Probably his head

Flightrider 28th Nov 2019 21:24

No substance to that one at all.

CabinCrewe 28th Nov 2019 21:37


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10628538)
watch this space.

We are watching this space very closely. Another 'anonymous source' or from the much maligned Slot Allocations? Plain Mad indeed.

Plane mad 134 28th Nov 2019 21:44


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10628630)

We are watching this space very closely. Another 'anonymous source' or from the much maligned Slot Allocations? Plain Mad indeed.

Make fun all you want, Im just saying its not from the slot allocations. And yes watch this space.

Sk1schoolsam 28th Nov 2019 22:38


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10628380)


They used the 738 on this route before so it is capable. The MAX is also planned to be based at EDI upon its return so it will likely be that, definitely not a 757.

Why not??

I would be a bit concerned if they were relying on the MAX being back in service to deliver this route. Who knows if or when that will happen.

Would they not have to fly a 738 light to get that range like Norwegian had to do early doors on their TA routes? just curious.

Yeehaw22 28th Nov 2019 23:02


Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam (Post 10628664)


Why not??

I would be a bit concerned if they were relying on the MAX being back in service to deliver this route. Who knows if or when that will happen.

Would they not have to fly a 738 light to get that range like Norwegian had to do early doors on their TA routes? just curious.

Because it's not a 757 base, because most if not all the 757s are going by winter 20 and if the max isn't back flying by November 2020 then Tui will have far bigger issues to solve than payload restricting a 738 to sharm. Although am pretty sure the 738 has the legs for sharm with full load.

ROC10 28th Nov 2019 23:41


Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam (Post 10628664)


Why not??

I would be a bit concerned if they were relying on the MAX being back in service to deliver this route. Who knows if or when that will happen.

Would they not have to fly a 738 light to get that range like Norwegian had to do early doors on their TA routes? just curious.

They aren’t going to bring a 757 into EDI for one flight (not a 757 base so no crews etc), especially as most are planned to be gone by then and the few that remain will be tied up at LGW/MAN/BHX. Furthermore, having significantly more seats, the 757 will be even harder to fill in the winter months and this aircraft is less economical (especially compared to the MAX), especially if not full.

Additionally, as I already mentioned, the 738 was used on this route prior to it’s suspension so clearly it is capable. The 738 currently manages the likes of MAN-RMF and BRS-SID on a weekly bases. Even though it remains uncertain, it is likely that the MAX will be back in service by November 2020.

willy wombat 29th Nov 2019 09:34

I think you can assume that if the Max isn't back in service by Nov 2020 then it never will be. Any chance someone answering my EDI stand planning question above? I know its boring discussing how an airport actually runs and serves its customers as opposed to what new spotting opportunities there might be.


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