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inOban 18th Sep 2019 10:13

Assuming that the EZY flights are at business-friendly times, Flybe will lose their most profitable customers, putting the whole route at risk. EDI to BHX could end up with just two flights per day rather than seven. Most of the traffic goes by train already.

FQTLSteve 18th Sep 2019 13:48

Well 2 x daily EDI-BHX wouldn't be enough. It's a busy business route and has had multiple frequency for decades now (as has GLA very similarly) I think that would not give business the flexibility it needs. The train is 4h30m fastest, at a frequency of only every two hours so you spend 9 hours minimum on the train that will require an overnight stay unlike a day or half day return by air. Both routes have been served by 1-11's, 737 and A319 with BA (some ATP off peak) in the past, although there was feed to BA hub at BHX, until they pulled out, admittedly but frequency has still been maintained. Although now retired and re-located, I have in the past been a frequent business user BHX-EDI/GLA and frequency is very important as it's possible with the schedule to use time efficiently. I think it really needs to remain at good daily spread service and 1 on Saturday is wholly inadequate. I hope you're wrong on your suggestion.

inOban 18th Sep 2019 15:55

easyJet are forecasting over 180000 pax. On the basis of the July data, which may be not normal, Flybe carry just under 300000. So EZY expect to take over half the traffic, unless there's an unmet need for LCC traffic.
And BTW, the train takes about 3 hr 30. We'll see.

ib26uk 18th Sep 2019 19:21

I love flybe and having been using them from BHX to BHD/GLA/EDI for years !!!!!!!!!

I welcome this news !!!!!!!

I can now fly from BHX to BFS-GLA-EDI with easyJet instead

chrism20 18th Sep 2019 22:50


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10573000)
easyJet are forecasting over 180000 pax. On the basis of the July data, which may be not normal, Flybe carry just under 300000. So EZY expect to take over half the traffic, unless there's an unmet need for LCC traffic.
And BTW, the train takes about 3 hr 30. We'll see.

3h 30m for the train is way off the mark. The quickest is the 0852 which is 4h6m. The majority are nearer 4h15m

cazzyg 19th Sep 2019 00:11

Great to see some competition on the EDI-BHX route as a regular user. The current FlyBe service is poor with frequent delays, cancellations and the planes are tired and cramped.

I have colleagues that take the train rather than use FlyBe. EasyJet is likely to take passengers from the train as well as FlyBe if the flight times work for business travel. The current train service isn’t really an option for day trips and if you live outside Edinburgh is closer to 5 hours minimum.

July is is likely to have lower loads given that July is peak holiday time and the number of business travellers on the route.

FQTLSteve 19th Sep 2019 07:35

The average journey time by train from BHX itself is 4h30 every two hours. It depends where you start from. There is a large catchment area from the South/ South East area from the airport down to Milton Keynes etc. I'm just saying for business users I think the train takes far too long; day returns are an absolute requirement.

Plane mad 134 19th Sep 2019 13:02

Even more news as Flybe cut Edinburgh-East Midlands and Loganair add Edinburgh-East Midlands, it looks like loganair will be 5x daily.

Plane mad 134 19th Sep 2019 15:51

Aslo reported in a kerry newspaper they are in negotiations with Loganair for flights from Edinburgh to Kerry.

VickersVicount 19th Sep 2019 17:04


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10573655)
Even more news as Flybe cut Edinburgh-East Midlands and Loganair add Edinburgh-East Midlands, it looks like loganair will be 5x daily.

5x Daily seems overkill...

inOban 19th Sep 2019 18:21

The schedule on the East Midlands thread shows just 4.

LGWAlan 20th Sep 2019 12:23

It's up to 4 daily:
1 LM 361 X7 EDI EMA 0650 0800 0 30MAR20 29AUG20 ER4 1:10
2 LM 363 7 EDI EMA 1200 1310 0 29MAR20 30AUG20 ER4 1:10
3 LM 365 X6 EDI EMA 1430 1540 0 29MAR20 30AUG20 ER4 1:10
4 LM 367 X67 EDI EMA 1600 1710 0 30MAR20 28AUG20 ER4 1:10
5 LM 369 X6 EDI EMA 1930 2040 0 29MAR20 30AUG20 ER4 1:10

and:
1 LM 362 X7 EMA EDI 0830 0940 0 30MAR20 29AUG20 ER4 1:10
2 LM 364 X67 EMA EDI 1415 1525 0 30MAR20 28AUG20 ER4 1:10
3 LM 366 X6 EMA EDI 1740 1850 0 29MAR20 30AUG20 ER4 1:10
4 LM 368 X6 EMA EDI 1955 2105 0 29MAR20 30AUG20 ER4 1:10
5 LM 370 5 EMA EDI 2110 2220 0 03APR20 28AUG20 ER4 1:10

Sk1schoolsam 20th Sep 2019 12:51


Originally Posted by LGWAlan (Post 10574466)
It's up to 4 daily:
1 LM 361 X7 EDI EMA 0650 0800 0 30MAR20 29AUG20 ER4 1:10
2 LM 363 7 EDI EMA 1200 1310 0 29MAR20 30AUG20 ER4 1:10
3 LM 365 X6 EDI EMA 1430 1540 0 29MAR20 30AUG20 ER4 1:10
4 LM 367 X67 EDI EMA 1600 1710 0 30MAR20 28AUG20 ER4 1:10
5 LM 369 X6 EDI EMA 1930 2040 0 29MAR20 30AUG20 ER4 1:10

and:
1 LM 362 X7 EMA EDI 0830 0940 0 30MAR20 29AUG20 ER4 1:10
2 LM 364 X67 EMA EDI 1415 1525 0 30MAR20 28AUG20 ER4 1:10
3 LM 366 X6 EMA EDI 1740 1850 0 29MAR20 30AUG20 ER4 1:10
4 LM 368 X6 EMA EDI 1955 2105 0 29MAR20 30AUG20 ER4 1:10
5 LM 370 5 EMA EDI 2110 2220 0 03APR20 28AUG20 ER4 1:10

This is a reduction in terms of seats moving from Dash 8 to a E145 - right? Did not fly the route often so don’t know what the Flybe load factors were like but the smaller plane might be fuller. Is this not a flash back to when BMI served the route?

double_barrel 25th Sep 2019 06:54

Hi All,


I hope this question is in the right place!

I am flying out of EDI on flybe in a couple of days. After that I am flying out of MAN and out of Europe.

I want to hand carry a handheld, re-chargable, aviation, VHF transceiver. I need to hand carry it out of EDI because I will have hand luggage only, and out of MAN because I want to claim a VAT refund on it Any idea how security will react to it? In theory I could cause total mayhem with it! But I wonder if security will know or care and will distinguish it from any random radio ?


https://www.yaesu.com/indexVS.cfm?cm...2&isArchived=0

Thanks

inOban 25th Sep 2019 09:22

https://www.insider.co.uk/news/edinb...ugust-20097900

Although they don't seem to have posted the numbers on their own website, I found them here. Big fall in domestic numbers, just offset by continued, but slowing, growth in international business.

Breathe 26th Sep 2019 19:07

Formation of a new airport access road from the east of the terminal building at Edinburgh Airport to Gogar Roundabout

https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov...=PYBRI3EW0XE00

This image also appears to show an extended south east pier.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....608123d760.jpg

Plane mad 134 27th Sep 2019 20:12

All part of the masterplan, Good to see more expansion though. Also Jet2 added a few thousand extra seats for the winter. And Im also hearing rumours that Jetblue are intersted in starting New York in the future on A321XLR.

CabinCrewe 28th Sep 2019 07:07


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10581072)
Im also hearing rumours that Jetblue...

And where/whom were you hearing that from? Keen to credibility and timescales.

DUB19 28th Sep 2019 07:18


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10581072)
All part of the masterplan, Good to see more expansion though. Also Jet2 added a few thousand extra seats for the winter. And Im also hearing rumours that Jetblue are intersted in starting New York in the future on A321XLR.

JetBlue will not come near the place. They are more interested in larger cities first such as London, Dublin & Amsterdam. They are not going to launch risky routes like EDI, they are only going to launch routes that they know there is demand for.

PDXCWL45 28th Sep 2019 08:06


Originally Posted by DUB19 (Post 10581296)


JetBlue will not come near the place. They are more interested in larger cities first such as London, Dublin & Amsterdam. They are not going to launch risky routes like EDI, they are only going to launch routes that they know there is demand for.

Edinburgh is on their radar but not in their first launch.


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