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Originally Posted by goldeneye
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
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So noone else would be affected by that? However it should not really cause a problem for FR, dispite their complaints as the tax rate is much lower for short haul . |
Norwegian launched it on the promise that it would be reduced, and it wasnt. For a route so thin, any additional tax or levy is always going to cause an issue.
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But Westjet have the same APD at GLA and seem to cope.
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
(Post 10367544)
But Westjet have the same APD at GLA and seem to cope.
APD wasn’t the only reason Norwegian cancelled their TATL flights from EDI but it was a major contributing factor. The other irish routes seem to be being cut back now as well. |
Which makes the point that if you have a sound business model (Westjet) you can cope with the costs whereas if you have an unsound model to start with...…...
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Did EDI loose out to Dublin on the Halifax link (Halifax - Dublin announced 24th Nov 2018)? Hope this could resurrected as it would be a great additional link to North America and Canada in particular. |
Originally Posted by willy wombat
(Post 10368043)
Which makes the point that if you have a sound business model (Westjet) you can cope with the costs whereas if you have an unsound model to start with...…...
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Every month on the Edinburgh thread there is a (gloating?) post about how much traffic growth there has been vs previous year. What incentive is there for the SG to cut APD? If it halved it, you would need twice as many passengers to achieve the same tax take. That's not going to happen and the SG needs all the revenue it can get.
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
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Every month on the Edinburgh thread there is a (gloating?) post about how much traffic growth there has been vs previous year. What incentive is there for the SG to cut APD? If it halved it, you would need twice as many passengers to achieve the same tax take. That's not going to happen and the SG needs all the revenue it can get.
An APD cut would surely make more direct long haul routes from EDI (and GLA) more attractive and that should be welcomed. The shorter European routes look after themselves really and will be less affected but I for one would prefer to have change aircraft at hubs less often if it can be avoided through more direct links. The cut in APD was in the SNP manifesto after all was it not? |
With Norwegian also cutting back on routes from Ireland, I wonder whether the economics of the B38M on transatlantic services is perhaps not as attractive as was predicted?
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This is pure conjecture, but I imagine the remoteness of the airports used by the Norwegian long haul routes could be a factor in their failure -- Newburgh/Stewart specifically. As much as people will seek out the lowest possible fare, they will factor in ease of onward travel.
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EK DXB approx 11K last month up to 16K Dec Seems a good start. NCL was 18 K last month so will bypass shortly I would imagine. Further levelling out with GLA I would imagine with a big drop once released. Not so sure about Hainan numbers only 1300? |
And Hainan are to be using the B787-9 for the summer schedule again. And it appears to be 4x weekly again as well.
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Maybe the perceived poor loads are not correct and its a real cargo money spinner. You can never tell with Hainan from one month to the next... |
Cabin crew it will be carrying the usual hordes of CAISSA middle class State authorised tourist parties.Just as the Manchester services do and significant numbers of unescorted boxes of stuff and nonsense below the plimsole line. Including a few notable Scottish exports going east either in bottle tin or on ice for those with fins - Caveat these risk dropping off in volume if Trumps trade wars continues to threaten the Chinese middle class spending power. China the Brexiteers dream economy is currently headed in a southerly direction and that Will have dire consequences on Global economic activity and UK plc is very likely to take a chill on top of the rather cold winds from self imposed withdrawal from the worlds largest most developed and frankly most stable market place just 28 miles offshore. The numbers of UK business entrepreneurs going East in search of No 8 lucky rice quarries are less than stellar in reality and quite a few are further put off by Chinese thieves in high places ! BTW that also applies to those numerous HNA Group flights to and from no-mark Chinese towns to Heathrow just as much. Someone who combines his sign in with a UK and US large airport might suggest Chingsha has a population larger than most EU cities and a trueism though how much spending power compared to say the Ruhr might be suspect on closer analysis So I’ll stick with no - mark Chinese towns on this point. |
QR website showing twice daily Mon, Wed and Fri from 1st July to end of summer schedule in October. Additional flights also by A350.
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Originally Posted by tartan 201
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QR website showing twice daily Mon, Wed and Fri from 1st July to end of summer schedule in October. Additional flights also by A350.
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Originally Posted by A350Saltire
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Good to see the A350 proving popular. 10 weekly is great news. |
Interesting move and undoubtedly in response to try and protect their market from Emirates in Scotland. Will be interesting to see how this pans out. Curious it only 3/wk during the EK A380 summer operation period. Unusual for QR to schedule in that fashion.
The perceived year round average loads obviously don't reflect QRs view of the route. Meanwhile, the global demise of Etihad after their withdrawal doesn't seem to have come to fruition. |
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