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Nuweiba 1st Jul 2020 11:01

The Isle of Man flights are up online for sale - every Wednesday and Sunday starting 22nd July. The lead in fares starting at 85 quid return, and sales seem to be brisk !

( I still say Fridays and Sundays would have been better )

flyerguy 1st Jul 2020 11:21


Originally Posted by Nuweiba (Post 10826247)
The Isle of Man flights are up online for sale - every Wednesday and Sunday starting 22nd July. The lead in fares starting at 85 quid return, and sales seem to be brisk !

( I still say Fridays and Sundays would have been better )

Wednesday allow or a few days break rather than a week or 5 days. Opens up the possibility’s for 3 night breaks or a week. I think a lot of people will be happy to see shorter breaks on offer.

JSCL 1st Jul 2020 11:28

Looking at timings, also seems the aircraft is based on the IOM?

flyerguy 1st Jul 2020 11:46


Originally Posted by JSCL (Post 10826276)
Looking at timings, also seems the aircraft is based on the IOM?

The way I look at it the flights on a Wednesday arrive on the IOM at 13:40 for a half hour spin back out to GCI

JSCL 1st Jul 2020 12:37


Originally Posted by flyerguy (Post 10826294)
The way I look at it the flights on a Wednesday arrive on the IOM at 13:40 for a half hour spin back out to GCI

I looked at a Weds-Weds return earlier and it seemed the reverse, but there may have been different flight times that day.

kar42 1st Jul 2020 15:17

I have booked GCI to IOM 1200 returning IOM to GCI 1410 a week later. However I have also seen mid afternoon and evening times on different dates. Aircraft definitely based GCI.

KindaUnstuck 1st Jul 2020 16:29

They've upgraded the first 6 GCI - IOM flights from the ATR to the Embraer according to the Aurigny Facebook page

JSCL 1st Jul 2020 17:26


Originally Posted by KindaUnstuck (Post 10826542)
They've upgraded the first 6 GCI - IOM flights from the ATR to the Embraer according to the Aurigny Facebook page

Seems fares have quickly started to jump up too. Demand must be strong.

Nuweiba 1st Jul 2020 20:16


Originally Posted by flyerguy (Post 10826267)
Wednesday allow or a few days break rather than a week or 5 days. Opens up the possibility’s for 3 night breaks or a week. I think a lot of people will be happy to see shorter breaks on offer.

But Friday and Sundays allow for weekend travel - and already quite a few people on social media have lamented that point. A weekend trip, five nights or a week would have brought more business. On the other hand, bookings seem to be coming in.... the ATR which was originally planned to operate the schedule is being replaced by the Embraer in the first few trips.

Gurnard 2nd Jul 2020 15:39


Originally Posted by KindaUnstuck (Post 10825314)
Doing Oxford - Graz - Oxford before returning to Guernsey.

Apparently it has a few charters lined up over the next month or so.

Now officially confirmed - Embraer charter related to Austrian Grand Prix:-

https://guernseypress.com/news/2020/...of-grand-prix/

KindaUnstuck 2nd Jul 2020 17:22


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10827352)
Now officially confirmed - Embraer charter related to Austrian Grand Prix:-

https://guernseypress.com/news/2020/...of-grand-prix/

Looks like the "journalist" pretty much put the posts from here in order with a few extra words to create her article (hardly a surprise).

Not heard anything today about how the Isle of Man sales have gone.

JSCL 2nd Jul 2020 17:42


Originally Posted by KindaUnstuck (Post 10827419)
Looks like the "journalist" pretty much put the posts from here in order with a few extra words to create her article (hardly a surprise).

Not heard anything today about how the Isle of Man sales have gone.

60% of all seats sold, I read. Some IOM-GCI flights in Aug now sold out.

KindaUnstuck 2nd Jul 2020 17:53


Originally Posted by JSCL (Post 10827435)
60% of all seats sold, I read. Some IOM-GCI flights in Aug now sold out.

I hope it is extended, I am on leave the first week of September so was hoping to go for a few days but it ends 30 August at the moment

Nuweiba 2nd Jul 2020 21:24


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10827352)
Now officially confirmed - Embraer charter related to Austrian Grand Prix:-

https://guernseypress.com/news/2020/...of-grand-prix/

Think Guernsey Press are getting their stories from this forum :-)

Anyway.... seems like Aurigny are going to be using the Embraer for all the Isle of Man flights. On one day in August they have scheduled two flights.

Feet on ground 3rd Jul 2020 09:47

Why would "A weekend trip,five nights or a week" be any better than choices of a three night trip or a four night trip incorporating a weekend or a seven night trip incorporating a weekend?

Feet on ground 3rd Jul 2020 09:48


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10827352)
Now officially confirmed - Embraer charter related to Austrian Grand Prix:-

https://guernseypress.com/news/2020/...of-grand-prix/

Since when was anything you read in the GP "Officially confirmed"!!!!!!

Gurnard 3rd Jul 2020 10:27


Originally Posted by Feet on ground (Post 10827973)
Since when was anything you read in the GP "Officially confirmed"!!!!!!

Well said! The statement was made "tongue in cheek".

jijpc 3rd Jul 2020 17:32

Original Guernsey - Isle of Man services pretty much sold out and now additional services have been added. Some August dates now have both an E195 and an ATR72 service. Also services have been added in early September.

it’s not a big thing in the global situation but for the residents of both islands who want to get away without having to quarantine it has proved to be a great opportunity.

KindaUnstuck 5th Jul 2020 12:18

The Embraer has just been shown on the Sky Sports F1 coverage - looks like the GR15 from Luton - Graz was possibly for F1 media and operated from the private terminal at Luton.

Juliet Pouteaux and Guernsey Press can have that one for free if they want to run another pointless article

KindaUnstuck 13th Jul 2020 21:09

The Embraer flew Guernsey - Graz - Budapest - Guernsey today using GR11 and GR18 flight numbers, presumably moving Racing Point F1 from the Redbull Ring to the Hungaroring for this weekend's F1 race

Gaseous 18th Jul 2020 16:26

BN Islander spotted doing a flypast of Braye beach this week. Air Alderney training flight apparently. Unwelcome competition for Aurigny or the excuse they want to dump the island altogether?

Wycombe 23rd Jul 2020 06:41

Not a very auspicious day for AUR yesterday on the first IOM service according to this https://guernseypress.com/news/2020/...f-man-service/

Problems with the ATR to SOU also, which required a Fire Service callout, followed by an airframe change.

jijpc 23rd Jul 2020 17:28

I agree not a good start to the IOM service, however it has certainly been a success given the prevailing circumstances with over 5,000 seats sold according to the CEO when he was interviewed on Manx Radio this morning.

More flights have also been added in August to accommodate sports teams wanting to engage in inter-island competition. This means that on 16/8 and 23/8 there are three return flights.

KindaUnstuck 9th Aug 2020 15:43

Bit of a strange one but the GR700 GCI - IOM had to divert into Manchester for 2 hours this morning.

​​​​​​Been told ATC, Security etc were all in so the aircraft could land at 9.25 as it was a charter for the rugby teams going up to the Isle of Man for the day but no one turned up to open up the terminal as normally it wouldn't open until 11am on Sundays at the moment.

The passengers sat on the aircraft at Manchester for 2 hours or so but then they couldn't get hold of ground equipment to get th aircraft back out again so it was delayed some more.

bmaviscount 12th Sep 2020 10:18

Did I read Aurigny hVe agreed a daily slot to Heathrow from GCI from October?

Jerbourg 12th Sep 2020 11:22

I know they applied for 4 but didn't think they'd been allocated any.

KindaUnstuck 12th Sep 2020 11:24


Originally Posted by bmaviscount (Post 10883630)
Did I read Aurigny hVe agreed a daily slot to Heathrow from GCI from October?

To be confirmed...

According to a Facebook group run by someone who works at Heathrow they have filed for a daily flight with the Embraer from 25 October. If it goes ahead they will be based in Terminal 2.

GR906 Arrival at 15:15
GR907 Depature at 16:05

Presumably if it goes ahead they could use the ATR for now as I have seen that other airlines have been using their own ATRs into LHR recently.

Suggestion is Westjet and Ukraine International have also been awarded slots

FRatSTN 12th Sep 2020 12:11

May explain why STN appears to have been discontinued as the only airport still showing nothing for the winter. Though you'd think LGW would also be vulnerable to some capacity cut if using the Embraer.

cobopete 14th Sep 2020 13:43

LHR flight awarded
 
IslandFM announce today that Daily LHR flight has been awarded, 25Oct to 27Mar.
Pete

Egda 15th Sep 2020 07:56

Actually they have turned them down as they were too expensive and in reality who was going to use them as Guernsey still requires 14 days quarantine from most countries including major parts of the UK

The Nutts Mutts 15th Sep 2020 08:17

ACI-SOU
 
When I looked a couple of days ago it now appears that ACI-SOU isn't bookable over the winter. Is this correct?

Egda 15th Sep 2020 08:22

Yes there are no flights to Alderney direct from the UK due to Covid restrictions, you can only fly via Guernsey and be subject to 14 days quarantine

Nuweiba 16th Sep 2020 05:41

It seems that the slots were being awarded only for the winter season with no guarantee that they could be extended through the summer. Would have been rather pointless starting a new route for just one winter even without the restrictions of Covid-19.

KindaUnstuck 5th Oct 2020 21:08

Aurigny are teaming up with Eastern to offer 1-stop UK services via Southampton in a similar way to Blue Islands and Loganair:

https://www.business-live.co.uk/econ...y-19055329.amp

adfly 5th Oct 2020 22:14

Good news, we need this sort of co-operation to ensure our remaining regional airlines can survive.

Jerbourg 6th Oct 2020 15:06

Worldwide by Aurigny! Lol You have got to laugh!
They should be getting codeshares going with major carriers to enable through flights from LGW & MAN, whilst the Eastern link up is a step in the right direction Eastern aren't known for low fares or reliability. I'd be surprised if this is a success.



SWBKCB 6th Oct 2020 15:46

Business Live don't have the full quote. Try this:

“As we come out of this pandemic, I expect we will see more airlines concentrate their operations out of certain hubs and that agreements between airlines will be more commonplace for the benefit of the customer. We are also working on agreements with other key airlines offering services from the UK to develop ‘Worldwide by Aurigny,’ which will offer customers connecting flights to Worldwide destinations booked via the Aurigny website.”
https://aviationtribune.com/airlines...are-agreement/

Nuweiba 7th Oct 2020 08:42

Aurigny's senior management always claimed it was not possible to operate such code-share / interline agreements with other airlines because of differences in CRSs and excessive costs in handling passengers who missed their connections. Suddenly it now becomes possible ! Because Blue Islands have already taken the lead with their own Loganair tie-up. Blue Islands are always one step ahead of Aurigny.

This tie-up will help Guernsey's connectivity though there will be duplication of Manchester and Leeds/Bradford routes. But what is needed is a full integration into the likes of the BA network, ( just as BI did with Flybe ). Yet again, Aurigny's bosses claim that is not possible, though I suspect they are not willing to achieve anything where their own domains and reason d'ętre is threatened. To get a deal with BA, one needs both a commitment from the airline's senior executives and the relevant head of the STSB and CED, ( post-election ), to talk to BA and ask not whether it is possible but how much would it cost to make it happen !

kcockayne 7th Oct 2020 11:06

For AUR to get a workable deal with BAW requires that the two networks connect somewhere - most appropriately Heathrow &/or Gatwick. Up to now, AUR have been unable to get into Heathrow (may change ?), & BAW are supposed to be withdrawing from Gatwick. Unless this situation changes, I cannot see where the two airlines can interline.

Diverskii 7th Oct 2020 12:13

Watch this space is all I'll say.

Systems can and do easily work with interline on a city by city basis, so LON rather than LHR. There are ways to get between LGW/LHR, not very convenient for most but people do it.


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