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AerRyan 22nd Apr 2018 14:17


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 10126314)
mik3bravo

Using the same thought process, if you had a bad experience in a hospital would you refuse to use it again if you fell ill? Sadly it is possible to have a bad experience in just about every walk in life, but maybe not the best decision to say never going there again. You will quickly run out of options. I have had flights cancelled by BA with not a care to the disruption caused.

No, but you'd try to use a different one, in both analogies. This isn't very hard in Belfast, it being only a short journey to Dublin.

SealinkBF 22nd Apr 2018 17:16

Norwegian don't offer business class... so if you were expecting anything more than PE then you would be disappointed.

And yes, first impressions do count for a lot.

If you had a bad experience in a hospital, I would try and use a different one next time, of course I would. If you had a bad first date then I probably wouldn't go for a second - the wedding scenario isn't really the same thing.

mik3bravo 23rd Apr 2018 17:24

Meant PE not business. As it happened when they managed to get us a couple of PE seats on their Dreamliner from JFK to Oslo, it was nice and Norwegian cabin crew were attentive.

However when the substituted Norwegian for HiFly, it was really very poor. The planes interiors seen better days. PE seats not working properly. Entertainment screens had either no sound, faulty headphone jack sockets, remote controls not working, in flight service was extremely low quality, food services up was not great. People's reactions in PE was dismay. It was a series of comedy errors. I suppose a lesson learned - next time I'll use an established carrier on that trans Atlantic route. HiFly just not up to par. They had more delays and pulled flights on that HiFly route. I was stuck last minute with need to book a flight urgently. The Norwegian Oslo to Gatwick was fine, no issues at all.

racedo 5th May 2018 10:45

https://www.independent.ie/business/...-36875457.html

Not a real surprise because it appears IAG didn't really read the share register or talk to major shareholders in advance of this.

Figure if someone want to approach company direct and do a tie up it could happen while respecting the companys name, reputation and origins.

Does Norway breed racehorses ?

VickersVicount 1st Jun 2018 17:43

2 more Norwegian transatlantic routes gone this time from Scandinavia to LAS and OAK.
How many transatlantic routes have they once started then canned and presumably less than theyve commenced.

toledoashley 1st Jun 2018 19:05

VickersVicount - I would expect more to come...

racedo 2nd Jun 2018 09:01


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 10162629)
2 more Norwegian transatlantic routes gone this time from Scandinavia to LAS and OAK.
How many transatlantic routes have they once started then canned and presumably less than theyve commenced.

Try routes and if they don't work as well as expcted then can them.................... no different from any other airline

spacedog 2nd Jun 2018 10:31


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10163101)
Try routes and if they don't work as well as expcted then can them.................... no different from any other airline

That works well if you are financialy sound and you have a solid balance sheet.
Norwegian are not in that position, they are loosing money and large amounts.
The business model is built around the price of cheap oil. Oil is on the.move and likely to go Higher.
i don’t think think IAG have fully walked away, I would expect further developments on this front.

adfly 2nd Jun 2018 11:02


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 10162629)
2 more Norwegian transatlantic routes gone this time from Scandinavia to LAS and OAK.
How many transatlantic routes have they once started then canned and presumably less than theyve commenced.

Let's add some context to this; ARN-OAK and LAS have both been pulled due to Sweden's implementation of a significant APD style aviation tax of approximately $48 to meet sustainable development targets. Presumably they were the least profitable/most loss making routes and have been canned as the additional cost has made them un-viable to operate.

https://nordic.businessinsider.com/n...s-new-policy--

racedo 2nd Jun 2018 22:48


Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 10163143)


That works well if you are financialy sound and you have a solid balance sheet.
Norwegian are not in that position, they are loosing money and large amounts.
The business model is built around the price of cheap oil. Oil is on the.move and likely to go Higher.
i don’t think think IAG have fully walked away, I would expect further developments on this front.

No it doesn't.
If your routes are underperforming you kill them................. end of story.
Nothing gained by holding onto route where people and profits aren't there.
Frankly its a way to go bust.

SWBKCB 3rd Jun 2018 09:28

Chuck it against the wall and see what sticks is a bigger risk in longhaul because of the greater costs involved.

Makes you wonder about the quality of the advance planning. Presumably this Swedish tax didn't just appear out of nowhere?

toledoashley 25th Jun 2018 08:01

New route from Gatwick to Tampa - 2x per week starting 31 October. (Wednesday and Saturday)

Speedbrakes Up 25th Jun 2018 19:11

new route announcement today, excellent is that on a Norwegian 787 or a leased A340/A330 or perhaps a 747.

Lots of on going issues with the 787 due to the rolls Royce engine issues.
Yes I know this is effecting every rolls Royce operator, but when you get a completely different aircraft, operating a service below what you expect it's not good for customer retention .

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Buster the Bear 27th Jun 2018 11:30

Norwegian will retrofit its existing fleet of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft with an upgraded, more spacious cabin featuring new lighter and comfier slimline seats.

Is this to help increase range?

GAZMO 27th Jun 2018 12:50

It will reduce fuel burn mainly
see attached article
https://nitravelnews.com/news/norweg...antic-flights/

Shamrock350 27th Jun 2018 13:45

Seat width will go from 17.2" to 16.8" in the new cabin. Spacious? Comfier?

29Alpha 27th Jun 2018 14:02


Originally Posted by GAZMO (Post 10182854)
It will reduce fuel burn mainly
see attached article
https://nitravelnews.com/news/norweg...antic-flights/

nice to see they cant even find the correct aircraft to picture

Plane.Silly 27th Jun 2018 14:43


Seat width will go from 17.2" to 16.8" in the new cabin. Spacious? Comfier?
So they shave 1cm off each seat. Might just be me being picky, but would that really save much Fuel burn. Could see each seat maybe saving about 1kg each each so x 189 = upto 189kgs / around 400lb. All it takes is a few extra large passengers to undo all the hard work (assuming they could sit in the new seat in the first place

Smooth Airperator 28th Jun 2018 10:15

Norway disposes of remaining SAS equity

Could this pave the way for Norwegian Longhaul to get overfly permission over Siberian airspace? This was the Russian justification originally (only one airline per country allowed). Was it done deliberately for this purpose?

BA318 28th Jun 2018 11:28


Originally Posted by Smooth Airperator (Post 10183521)
Norway disposes of remaining SAS equity

Could this pave the way for Norwegian Longhaul to get overfly permission over Siberian airspace? This was the Russian justification originally (only one airline per country allowed). Was it done deliberately for this purpose?

No. Norway has a Conservative government who want to sell off assets. As far as I am aware, there are no plans to buy into Norwegian or support Norwegian any more than SAS.


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