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brian_dromey 22nd Jan 2018 16:04


Originally Posted by EI-EIDW (Post 10027944)
Rumours that EI will add a 3rd A330 next summer with a new x4 weekly service to Denver + others getting extra freq. Might apparently hear next week.

Denver? Potentially a brilliant choice, but very left field. BA apparently do well from DEN, so connections should be good.

Thinking of the destinations like Toronto, Hartford, Seattle Philadelphia Washington and even Miami, some of those destinations are quite “out there” for EI. Some of those destinations weren’t even “in the wildest dreams” category for crew stopovers!

Dallas and Houston are still outstanding I wonder if these don’t think these fit the current model. EI seems to be moving away from traditional diaspora markets to choose cities which are underserved to the EU, but have strong premium demand. It’s clever and avoids some of the competition from Norwegian.

I can’t wait to see where the A321LRs go. It’s going to be fascinating! I still think there’s hope for a small number of Asian destinations with the new runway, if A350s ever turn up.

EI-A330-300 22nd Jan 2018 16:17

Interesting to see if anything comes of it. Denver has United and EI prefer to have feed at both ends where possible. Unless AA feed happens I bet they will eventually go for IAH over DFW.

Skipness One Echo 22nd Jan 2018 16:23

What's the current state of play with the A350 order?

EI-A330-300 22nd Jan 2018 16:27

Nobody knows, it does however appear to be off the table with extra A330 and A321LR. The original first few slots EI had have gone to other carriers (not IAG) and it was speculated IB may take lather ones. CEO didn't rule it out before Christmas or said they were expecting any.

owenc 22nd Jan 2018 17:06

Hopef The 3rd A330 provides the day JFK.

Una Due Tfc 22nd Jan 2018 17:18

DEN 4 x weekly, with ORD going to 17 x weekly apparently.

With QR looking to get rid of a lot of 330s over the coming years as 350s arrive, there could be massive EI expansion with 12 LRs arriving from next year.

brian_dromey 22nd Jan 2018 17:26


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10028044)
Hopef The 3rd A330 provides the day JFK.

Its a 321LR route, I'd say - at least to begin with. The problem is that there are very few connections on either end. Its probably one of the weaker performers on the network - its not worth leasing in the Omni 767 to cover SNN, for example.


Originally Posted by aerlingus.com
The daily flight will depart New York JFK airport at 12:00 pm and arrive into Dublin airport at 11:40 pm local time. The return flight departs Dublin at 7:50 am arriving into New York JFK at 10:20 am, on the same day.

IAG have a lot of flexibility with their orders, so there is every possibility that EI could get the A350 for some Asia routes, if there is the market and business case there. Cabin furnishings are, apparently, standardised across the IAG new-orders, so can be assigned to any of the IAG group at short notice. Look at LEVEL getting 332s bound for Iberia, for example. I wish that would mean espresso machines on BA and EI A350/330s, like IB have. Funny how those seem to stay in Madrid...

owenc 22nd Jan 2018 18:02

As long as they keep the noon departure! The 9am departures to Heathrow don't allow a lie in.

ia350 22nd Jan 2018 20:17


Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc (Post 10028055)
DEN 4 x weekly, with ORD going to 17 x weekly apparently.

With QR looking to get rid of a lot of 330s over the coming years as 350s arrive, there could be massive EI expansion with 12 LRs arriving from next year.

Denver Colorado ? Really hope so !

Una Due Tfc 22nd Jan 2018 20:23

That’s the talk on other forums anyway. We’ll know for sure Thursday week apparently.

ia350 23rd Jan 2018 07:45

Back to LA with EI soon and their prices are still very reasonable hopefully it continues.

PPRuNeUser0176 31st Jan 2018 10:13

Croatia Airlines to start twice weekly Zagreb service between May an October.

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...zagreb-service

NorthernCounties 31st Jan 2018 16:35

I heard from a member of Aer Lingus Cabin Crew that the Miami route was very quiet, is this what the actual passenger numbers are showing?

Jamie2k9 31st Jan 2018 17:19

It's improving but needs to be better.

Sober Lark 1st Feb 2018 18:41

Fares need to be cheaper. Still to your financial advantage to go East to go West especially if you are paying for more than 1 person, even if journey time and break of journey is slightly more inconvenient.

Blakedean 2nd Feb 2018 11:52

Looks like Hainan have finally announced PEK at 2 weekly inbound via EDI & 2 weekly direct (via EDI on the outbound I presume ) from June. I’ve read differing comments on a few sites so don’t take my word for the start date & frequencies.

Brakefan2 2nd Feb 2018 16:27

Surplus EI airframes
 
Flying out of DUB this week with SAS on a CPH rotation I couldn't help but notice 4 x320s and a 330 (FNG I think) sitting on the northerly apron. One of the 320s had engine covers on and looked mothballed. Are these aircraft just laid up for the winter or on rotation for maintenance? With talk of ASL doing FAO/AGP out of BHD for the summer I'm curious!

Blakedean 3rd Feb 2018 00:13

Lack of demand in the winter season hence why EI will operate some BA LHR-DUB/HAM flights from later this month. Recently flew to ACE with a 1245 departure & that was the aircrafts first flight of the day.

PPRuNeUser0176 6th Feb 2018 17:18

Almost 2m passengers in January up 6%

Europe 954,000 up 9%
UK 747,000 up 1%
Transatlantic 185,000 up 12%
Other Int 81,300 up 13%
Domestic 6,000 up 6%

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...-2m-passengers

Una Due Tfc 7th Feb 2018 07:30

Norwegian going double daily on SWF from April 26, extra flight departs at 08:30.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/norwegian-air-to-double-flights-on-dublin-new-york-route-1.3382606?mode=amp

Alteagod 7th Feb 2018 17:06

Thats jolly good news. Day trip to the states

Jamie2k9 8th Feb 2018 15:21

Schedule:

DUB-SWF
08.10-10.30
14.30-17.30

SWF-DUB
12.25-23.45
20.30-08.20

840 8th Feb 2018 16:23

Is that the only daytime flight operating from New York to Dublin this year?

Noxegon 8th Feb 2018 16:50

Yes, it is. Aer Lingus apparently feels they can do more with Newark (and no connections) than a flight that I used several times.

EI-A330-300 8th Feb 2018 17:50

Well United their partners at EWR.....I do think this will put them under pressure to bring it back in future. With 4 aircraft due next year it could well happen.

NorthernCounties 8th Feb 2018 18:39


Originally Posted by Alteagod (Post 10045146)
Thats jolly good news. Day trip to the states

Awk it's great, by the time you land, pick up your hold luggage, clear security, get on a bus, drive to Manhatten, it'll be time to get the bus back!:ok:

EIFFS 9th Feb 2018 11:06

Not so, first off you get US pre clearance at Dublin so when you land at Stewart it’s a domestic flight, just walk out collect your bags and your off...you then have a choice you can jump on the dedicated Norwegian coach ( run by stagecoach) shuttle into downtown NYC in around 60-90 minutes ( bus waits for your flight) or jump on the other dedicated Woodbury Common retail outlet bus to the 240 store retail outlet which takes around 30 minutes, shop until you drop and then back to the airport for your red eye flight home which takes around 5:30 most nights although the record is well below that, of course with the latter option you wouldn’t bother taking any luggage out bound would you?

Interesting idea, but I don’t think the flights are on sale yet? stand to be corrected.

Can think of nothing worse

Una Due Tfc 9th Feb 2018 11:08

I think anyone bringing a suitcase or two back from a day trip to NY would certainly attract the attention of customs....

We’ve seen how thin their margins are ex DUB from that chart the released a month or so ago, something like €3 per passenger. If the can get more people to take more bags and spend more cash then it could work very nicely, especially eastbound.

https://i2.wp.com/jdasolutions.aero/...size=300%2C278

Edit, they’re actually losing €4 per passenger ex DUB, but they’re new markets.

EI-A330-300 9th Feb 2018 22:10

Would not take much notice of that data, speculation at best. Fares are much higher after introductory offers.

Copenhagen 10th Feb 2018 11:20

The profit listed are for summer onwards for Ireland, and don’t include the dreaded winter death in yield and loads. Ireland isn’t as rosy as they are making out.

owenc 13th Feb 2018 13:08

Anyone know why American Airlines suddenly removed the cheap £1400 Business Class Return Fares? There was still quite a few seats left!

Fares up to £1900 now.

sinbad73 13th Feb 2018 13:11

Maybe there was a sales deadline on them. There often are with these type of promotional fares.

Rutan16 13th Feb 2018 14:51


Originally Posted by EIFFS (Post 10047135)
Not so, first off you get US pre clearance at Dublin so when you land at Stewart it’s a domestic flight, just walk out collect your bags and your off...you then have a choice you can jump on the dedicated Norwegian coach ( run by stagecoach) shuttle into downtown NYC in around 60-90 minutes ( bus waits for your flight) or jump on the other dedicated Woodbury Common retail outlet bus to the 240 store retail outlet which takes around 30 minutes, shop until you drop and then back to the airport for your red eye flight home which takes around 5:30 most nights although the record is well below that, of course with the latter option you wouldn’t bother taking any luggage out bound would you?

Interesting idea, but I don’t think the flights are on sale yet? stand to be corrected.

Can think of nothing worse

Shop till you drop and hopefully have your collar felt on landing by the nice ladies and gentlemen of the Eire customs for spending in excess of €430 !

They will know especially on a day trip !

owenc 13th Feb 2018 15:15


Originally Posted by sinbad73 (Post 10051662)
Maybe there was a sales deadline on them. There often are with these type of promotional fares.

Perhaps just thought it odd that the fares were dropped so quickly.

The Virgin Atlantic fares were on sale for quite a while.

ia350 19th Feb 2018 20:15

Can't post the link but the Canadian ambassador to Ireland said the are looking at new routes from Ireland to Canada .

AerRyan 19th Feb 2018 20:16

Canadian Ambassador can says all he wants, means nothing unless the airlines wish to offer said routes.

akerosid 20th Feb 2018 14:49

I'm sure he wouldn't have said it unless Westjet, Transat and AC were actually looking at new routes.

PPRuNeUser0176 25th Feb 2018 15:42

I see the daa have announced plans to spend an extra €285 between 2019-2021 on minor infrastructure changes in additional to the €100 million p.a spend. Regulator will allow €267.5 to be recovered.

Plans include:
* T1 Immigration Halls Expanded
* T1/T2 Self Service Check In System Expanded
* South Apron Stands
* T2 Bus Lounge
* Docking System & Fixed Ground Power Units in T1
* Major Taxiway Changes to elevate current bottle neck, dual taxi extended, extra line up points and second Runway 10 line up points, improved pier 4 access, future runway and reduce taxi times.

FerrisBueller 26th Feb 2018 13:43

They'll do well to get all that done for just €285! :E

Seljuk22 26th Feb 2018 16:37

Ryanair winter schedule

Dublin:
– 7 new routes: Athens (2 wkly), Bari (2 wkly), Frankfurt (2 daily), Luxembourg (3 wkly), Marrakesh (2 wkly), Paphos (1 wkly) & Santander (2 wkly)
– More flights on 11 other routes: Barcelona (3 daily), Birmingham (6 daily), Budapest (2 daily), Cologne (2 daily), Faro (2 daily), Krakow (2 daily), Lanzarote (8 wkly), Madrid (3 daily), Malaga (9 wkly), Manchester (6 daily) & Venice (3 wkly)
– 76 routes in total
– 13.1m customers p.a. (+5%)
– 9,800* “on-site” jobs p.a.
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...ule/?market=ie


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