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GAZMO 30th Jun 2020 15:09

There may have to be a dramatic change in schedules

I looked at BFS - NCL in November and the 21 weekly flights are all done with a NCL based aircraft, so maybe BFS will get an additional aircraft, with new LBA rumoured as well

Cannot see easyjet dropping BFS - NCL route

Reversethrustset 30th Jun 2020 15:18


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10825443)
Not entirely unexpected, but it's news we don't want to hear.
Back in April (earlier on this thread) it was stated there were plans to reduce the fleet by 3-14% over the next 18 months. But if a third of UK-based pilots are at risk of redundancy then surely the fleet will shrink by far more than 3-14%. There were 352 aircraft in April. If that number was to be cut by a third, over 100 aircraft will have to go. Is this not closer to the thinking of Sir Stelios a few weeks ago - or even worse than he envisaged?

Not quite, Gunard. They could quite easily reduce the number of crew required per aircraft meaning less standby cover and more crew efficiency and thus not getting rid of aircraft.

Gurnard 30th Jun 2020 15:24


Originally Posted by Reversethrustset (Post 10825478)
Not quite, Gurnard. They could quite easily reduce the number of crew required per aircraft meaning less standby cover and more crew efficiency and thus not getting rid of aircraft.

"More crew efficiency" will mean less operational efficiency. Levels of demand are not likely to return until 2023, according to EZY. Even if "crew required per aircraft" is reduced, my point is that the fleet will surely need to shrink more than 3-14% in size.

Fletch 30th Jun 2020 15:34


There were 352 aircraft in April
Of which it appear approximately 160 are based in the UK. I guess airframes could be deployed to bases on the continent and serve other routes. Or the jobs could be "off-shored" and the routes flown with the aircraft based at the other end.

yeo valley 30th Jun 2020 17:41

I read yesterday that 6 A320 neo have been long term leased to another airline. I have seen no more of this any where so it might be speculation. Any one heard any thing about this.

toledoashley 30th Jun 2020 18:27


Originally Posted by yeo valley (Post 10825621)
I read yesterday that 6 A320 neo have been long term leased to another airline. I have seen no more of this any where so it might be speculation. Any one heard any thing about this.

It was a sale and leaseback, so the aircraft remain with easyJet.

inOban 30th Jun 2020 19:04

I can't help thinking that using remote-based a/c may actually be a gain because the flights will miss the first-wave crush.

pabely 30th Jun 2020 20:38


Originally Posted by yeo valley (Post 10825621)
I read yesterday that 6 A320 neo have been long term leased to another airline. I have seen no more of this any where so it might be speculation. Any one heard any thing about this.

They do this quite often so not really any news. Suspect reporter saw this and immediately thought this was a knee jerk reaction to aid cash flows.

pabely 30th Jun 2020 20:43

[QUOTE]There were 352 aircraft in April[/QUOTE]
Hoping to have 110+ aircraft operational again by Friday. Even some A321NEOs!

Captain_Caveman 1st Jul 2020 00:53

[QUOTE=pabely;10825775]

There were 352 aircraft in April[/QUOTE]
Hoping to have 110+ aircraft operational again by Friday. Even some A321NEOs!
im not sure where you get your info from pabely but there are definitely no A319 or A321 Passenger flights this week or for the foreseeable future & there are also nowhere near three figures for the lines of flying by Friday.

pabely 1st Jul 2020 06:43

Operational from an engineering point of view. Whether Ops use them is a different thing.

sergy2k 1st Jul 2020 19:48

Slightly random observation however I’m gonna ask the question. Having looked on FR24 recently, it appears that BA is doing most of its short haul flying with their newer NEO fleet yet EZY seem to be restarting their flying programme with older CEO Airbus. From my armchair perspective, wouldn’t it be better for EZY to have newer, more fuel efficient aircraft flying when cash is tough? Surely that would help their fuel bill? Or have I missed the point entirely 🙃

JSCL 1st Jul 2020 20:04


Originally Posted by sergy2k (Post 10826695)
Slightly random observation however I’m gonna ask the question. Having looked on FR24 recently, it appears that BA is doing most of its short haul flying with their newer NEO fleet yet EZY seem to be restarting their flying programme with older CEO Airbus. From my armchair perspective, wouldn’t it be better for EZY to have newer, more fuel efficient aircraft flying when cash is tough? Surely that would help their fuel bill? Or have I missed the point entirely 🙃

You could also argue it would help their ‘Newer aircraft, state of the art air filtration’ marketing.

pabely 1st Jul 2020 20:30

Maintaince Ops are going as fast as they can. 320CEOs & 320NEOs first but some frames have not been looked after very well by third parties I believe. More technology means more to check and supply chains are still slow. The cost of fuel currently is not such an issue.

sergy2k 2nd Jul 2020 08:38


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10826729)
Maintaince Ops are going as fast as they can. 320CEOs & 320NEOs first but some frames have not been looked after very well by third parties I believe. More technology means more to check and supply chains are still slow. The cost of fuel currently is not such an issue.

Thanks. Thought there was more too it than my over-simplified version!

BA318 2nd Jul 2020 12:32

A small positive - at least for me, EasyJet will launch Gatwick - Stockholm Arlanda from 20th July. Route will operate 4 times weekly. They previously operated the route from Luton before suspending it.

pabely 3rd Jul 2020 12:30

[QUOTE=Captain_Caveman;10825921]

Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10825775)

im not sure where you get your info from pabely but there are definitely no A319 or A321 Passenger flights this week or for the foreseeable future & there are also nowhere near three figures for the lines of flying by Friday.

Ops, 319 out of SND to SOF today!

Red Four 3rd Jul 2020 13:00

[QUOTE=pabely;10828085]

Originally Posted by Captain_Caveman (Post 10825921)
Ops, 319 out of SND to SOF today!

Those appear to be positioning flights, not passenger.

Captain_Caveman 3rd Jul 2020 17:38

[QUOTE=pabely;10828085]

Originally Posted by Captain_Caveman (Post 10825921)
Ops, 319 out of SND to SOF today!

pabely, I work with the flying programme everyday so I have a good idea where our planes are flying too thanks. As I’ve said before, there are currently no 319/321 flights planned for commercial flying in the next couple of weeks. This may change when the next review takes place but for the moment they are only flying for air tests, ferry flights and other non passenger related reasons.

ROC10 3rd Jul 2020 18:03

Where even is SND, out of curiosity?


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