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The Nutts Mutts 31st Jul 2018 09:12

The KLM reduction is standard during the school holidays, they've been doing it since the route started. I believe they do it to other airports too, but don't quote me on that as I don't know for certain.

LAX2000 31st Jul 2018 11:30


Originally Posted by MARKEYD (Post 10210767)
Bournemouth handled 74 , 870 passengers in June , down 2 % due solely to the loss of 1 Las Palmas service operated by Ryanair . Other wise it was static basically as has been for several years now

All TUI flights operated out about 98 % full with Naples doing very well and as was the Dalaman service operated by Freebird A320

Ryanair had good loads although several flights were cancelled due to French ATC

Surely its time for TUI to consider basing a 2nd aircraft. They seem to be achieving 90%+ loads all year, and it's not unusual to see their prices £100+ more there the equivalent flight from BRS or LGW.

I know they have already added Crete, Kefallinia and Antalya next year, which has resulted in Tenerife now being operated by Air Europa and Corfu is a W pattern from a Cardiff based aircraft.

Nakata77 31st Jul 2018 13:39

What really gets me is that every travel agent in Bournemouth is advertising departures from London Gatwick in their shop windows; it's very rare to see a flight advertised that departs from Bournemouth even in Bournemouth town centre!

Groundloop 31st Jul 2018 13:41


Originally Posted by Nakata77 (Post 10211001)
What really gets me is that every travel agent in Bournemouth is advertising departures from London Gatwick in their shop windows; it's very rare to see a flight advertised that departs from Bournemouth even in Bournemouth town centre!

I disagree. Hays Travel have a significant number of packages flying from Bournemouth in their windows. Yesterday I noticed Malta, Mallorca, Lanzarote, Tenerife and others I can't remember at the moment being advertised with Bournemouth departures.

Nakata77 31st Jul 2018 13:45

OK not every travel agent - but a lot of them - just take a walk at lunchtime and you'll see them yourself, departures from LGW, LGW, LGW.

Hays is perhaps more locally focused

yeo valley 31st Jul 2018 18:49

AMS reductions ex BOH.
 

Originally Posted by The Nutts Mutts (Post 10210787)
The KLM reduction is standard during the school holidays, they've been doing it since the route started. I believe they do it to other airports too, but don't quote me on that as I don't know for certain.

The reduction of flights to AMS is due to runway repairs resurface. The flight reductions are at a few UK airports as in Europe as well. I don't know how long repairs are going to be in operation.

shamrock7seal 31st Jul 2018 20:44

Seeing lots of articles reviewing Bournemouth, one even referring to Bournemouth beach as the UK's Miami Beach. Given the potential of tourism to the region, is there any chance that routes from UK regions to Bournemouth would work? I don't mean daily services. I mean specifically package holiday and LCC-style flights that could be timed for seasonal (summer only) weekend travel. e.g Monday and Friday services to/from Newcastle/Leeds/Glasgow. Thoughts?

CabinCrewe 31st Jul 2018 21:04

Hasnt BOH been tried from regions incl GLA in the past and dropped?
Bournemouth aint no Miami...

EGPO 1st Aug 2018 10:26

Flybe
 
Wasn't Flybe based in Bournemouth at one point or was it Air Southwest?.
Perhaps if Flybe were operating routes similar to other regional airports it may help.
After all is it not true that Southampton is constrained by runway length?.

rpmac 1st Aug 2018 11:11

A few years ago I flew Prestwick to Bournemouth and back with Ryanair, I seem to remember that a 737 was reasonably full!

Groundloop 1st Aug 2018 11:27

Quite a few UK destinations have been tried in the not-too-distant past from BOH - Glasgow, Edinburgh, Manchester, Belfast - and all have been withdrawn. Draw your own conclusions.

MARKEYD 1st Aug 2018 12:42

Bournemouth and domestic flights don't go together , end of

Regarding Ryanair to PIK yes they were full up , but charging £ 19 one way of course its going to be full

Leave the domestic schedules to Southampton and Flybe which they are good at and leave BOH to concentrate on the holiday , sun and IT packages which its good at

shamrock7seal 2nd Aug 2018 11:54

The question was would a Holiday, Package, IT flight (with 737 or A320 sized a/c) from Newcastle, Glasgow or Leeds Bradford work only in the summer months bringing domestic stay-cation tourists from the North down to the South Coast - specifically for a summer beach holiday in Bournemouth?

Newquay seems to support this theory (albeit with Flybe) but Bournemouth has over 7m tourists (12m if you include Poole and surrounding area) a year mostly from domestic UK.

tibbs87 2nd Aug 2018 15:20


Originally Posted by shamrock7seal (Post 10212672)
The question was would a Holiday, Package, IT flight (with 737 or A320 sized a/c) from Newcastle, Glasgow or Leeds Bradford work only in the summer months bringing domestic stay-cation tourists from the North down to the South Coast - specifically for a summer beach holiday in Bournemouth?

Newquay seems to support this theory (albeit with Flybe) but Bournemouth has over 7m tourists (12m if you include Poole and surrounding area) a year mostly from domestic UK.


I think it's a possibility, but the council and Rigby Group would need to ensure better transportation links between the airport and key destinations like Christchurch, Bournemouth & Poole centres or train stations - that's the real flaw at the moment. But if they sorted out local infrastructure I think seasonal charter flights from Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow would work - we could even see charters coming in from Aberdeen, Belfast, Doncaster, Teesside & Norwich. It would be an amazing opportunity for local tourism, I would say they would need to perhaps implement smaller aircraft to test the market, ie Embraer jets or A319 sized aircraft & when the need arises upgrade to larger aircraft when the demand is there? :)

yeo valley 2nd Aug 2018 15:23

With a NCL route nearly all the pax is one way.There would be to many rotations with not a lot of pax on them.

stewyb 2nd Aug 2018 16:16


Originally Posted by tibbs87 (Post 10212829)
I think it's a possibility, but the council and Rigby Group would need to ensure better transportation links between the airport and key destinations like Christchurch, Bournemouth & Poole centres or train stations - that's the real flaw at the moment. But if they sorted out local infrastructure I think seasonal charter flights from Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow would work - we could even see charters coming in from Aberdeen, Belfast, Doncaster, Teesside & Norwich. It would be an amazing opportunity for local tourism, I would say they would need to perhaps implement smaller aircraft to test the market, ie Embraer jets or A319 sized aircraft & when the need arises upgrade to larger aircraft when the demand is there? :)

Are you serious, filling an A319 with 156 seats on domestic routes from BOU! :D

MARKEYD 2nd Aug 2018 18:26

We have been down this particular road many many times before , it’s just not feasible

Delusionsional ideas again , sorry but it is

canberra97 3rd Aug 2018 01:13


Originally Posted by EGPO (Post 10211851)
Wasn't Flybe based in Bournemouth at one point or was it Air Southwest?.
Perhaps if Flybe were operating routes similar to other regional airports it may help.
After all is it not true that Southampton is constrained by runway length?.

Air Southwest never operated from BOH and Flybe had a base at the airport for one season only a couple of years ago (it wasn't based there as Exeter is the home base of Flybe)

The runway at SOU does have it's constraints regarding runway length but this isn't a problem for the domestic routes that you have already mentioned.

You suggest seasonal IT flights from the regions to BOH, who do you suppose operated these as their are currently no domestic holiday companies offering internal holidays and flights combined.

The Newquay flights as a comparison are generally seat only and I'm certain that if we have summers like we are experiencing that in the coming years Bournemouth will become more ever more popular especially with the younger generation due to it's active nightlife and attractions but it's definitely no Miami although the beach at Bournemouth is far nicer than Miami Beach which to be honest is nothing to write home about :-)

tibbs87 4th Aug 2018 02:37


Originally Posted by stewyb (Post 10212885)
Are you serious, filling an A319 with 156 seats on domestic routes from BOU! :D


I said from Embraer jets OR A319 sized aircraft, I didn't say should & I'm not talking about scheduled domestic flights from Bournemouth, rather inbound seasonal (Summer) charters to BOH. It's not delusional at all, especially with Brexit on the horizon, there may be more Brits taking holidays to domestic destinations, so not delusional at all considering the current climate.

tibbs87 4th Aug 2018 02:46


Originally Posted by canberra97 (Post 10213209)
You suggest seasonal IT flights from the regions to BOH, who do you suppose operated these as their are currently no domestic holiday companies offering internal holidays and flights combined.

On the contrary British Airways offers domestic flights with hotels & car hire, also Expedia offer similar services for domestic UK flights, there's no 'all inclusive' domestic holiday firms, but perhaps that may become more frequent in the future if the demand becomes apparent - never say never ;)


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