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Heathrow Harry 22nd Dec 2017 11:36

The Embraer RJ145 belonging to BMI Regional is understood to have left the runway whilst taxiing after landing from Frankfurt at 11:36am.
Bristol Airport said none of the 25 passengers on-board flight BM1822 were injured and they were bussed to the terminal from the aircraft.
The airport warned there may be delays as the aircraft is recovered to a parking area.

hoss183 22nd Dec 2017 13:29

Great, one dolt takes a liking to grass over taxiway and 30 flights cancelled.
I'm due to fly into BRS later, any updates much appreciated.

ericlday 22nd Dec 2017 13:39

Notam ..... B) FROM: 17/12/22 13:34C) TO: 17/12/22 18:00

E) AD CLOSED DUE INCIDENT

parkfell 22nd Dec 2017 15:02

AAIB on their way

proprpm 22nd Dec 2017 15:14

NOTAM'ed closed to 1900

Herod 22nd Dec 2017 15:24


Great, one dolt takes a liking to grass over taxiway and 30 flights cancelled.
Hey Hoss, can you possibly spare a cupful of your own perfection for us mere mortals?

MerchantVenturer 22nd Dec 2017 16:29

bmi regional incident
 
Looking at the BRS website the current situation re affected flights is thus:

Departures: 34 left prior to the incident; 28 have been cancelled; 22 are showing 'next information'; 2 are showing 'check-in closes'; 1 is showing 'final boarding'; 1 is showing no information.

Arrivals: everything seemed to have arrived normally prior to the incident. After that 20 aircraft are shown as diverted; 26 cancelled; the remainder 'next information' or blank.

A lot of people will have had their Christmas plans ruined.

1066 22nd Dec 2017 16:29

Shame that the US Navy don't run the flight deck, sorry RW at BRS. Its not much bigger than a large carrier! Perhaps EZY and FR could fund the hull cost of the 145 after it's been pushed over the side.

OK I know that its got to stay where it is now that the AAIB are on the way but you have to feel for the number all those that have been inconvenienced with little chance left to retrieve their Christmas plans.
1066

ericlday 22nd Dec 2017 16:36

Latest Notam.... B) FROM: 17/12/22 17:23C) TO: 17/12/22 21:00

E) AD CLOSED DUE INCIDENT

ericlday 22nd Dec 2017 16:37

And it continues......latest Notam...... B) FROM: 17/12/22 17:23C) TO: 17/12/22 21:00

E) AD CLOSED DUE INCIDENT

SMT Member 22nd Dec 2017 16:44

If all this is 'just' a matter of having left the paved bit of a taxiway in LVP conditions, presumably getting the kite grass stuck in the process, surely it'd be possible to throughly record the incident scene by camera, sketch and notes, do a few measurements and get the thing moved within a couple of hours?

Heathrow Harry 22nd Dec 2017 16:48

"surely it'd be possible to thoroughly record the incident scene by camera, sketch and notes,"

WHAT and not inconvenience several thousand people 2 days before Christmas.....

After all the report will probably run to at least two sides of A4

masonic-air 22nd Dec 2017 16:52

Runway now closed until 21:00!
 
Waiting patiently in the terminal for the 145 crew to just pop in and explain why are Christmas plans have just been trashed from going off-roading! It’s mayhem here and no idea if flights will occur or cancelled. Still the bars are still open - bless!!

A4 22nd Dec 2017 16:53

If this was just a nose gear in the mud.....why is the airport still closed till 21:00? I thought they’d removed the aircraft much earlier. You’d think that with it being “frantic Friday” they’d pull out the stops to get things moving ASAP.

A4

ciderman 22nd Dec 2017 16:58

Feel sorry for the crew but, come on chaps! 8 hours to shift a commuter jet? Why are the AAIB involved? This is an incident, not an accident. Jobsworth?

birmingham 22nd Dec 2017 16:59


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 9998494)
"surely it'd be possible to thoroughly record the incident scene by camera, sketch and notes,"

WHAT and not inconvenience several thousand people 2 days before Christmas.....

After all the report will probably run to at least two sides of A4

Sure if that is what it is. BRS has form though. They had problems with braking efficiency on this runway which resulted in an AAIB report in 2009. Hopefully long since sorted and unrelated to today's events. While it needs
to be reported I can't see why a minor taxiway excursion would require an AAIB field investigation requiring the a/c to be left in situ. Will have to wait and see.

scifi 22nd Dec 2017 17:14

The next possibility is that AAIB will arrive, by car, and say they want it left in position until early morning light, when they can take photographs of the skid marks.
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MerchantVenturer 22nd Dec 2017 17:17

Just seen Nigel Scott, BRS business development director, (BRS currently has no CEO) on the local tv news. He said they can't move the aircraft until the AAIB investigators arrive to inspect it in situ and this is taking longer than expected.

The tv people said they've been told the earliest the airport will re-open is 9pm this evening.

WindSheer 22nd Dec 2017 17:54

For me, a low speed issue such as this with no injuries is not a major incident.
AAIB are not required to hold the recover process up. Why? Because 1000's of people are being disrupted unnecessarily. BRS will have competent managers to capture evidence post incident, BMI will have their process for capturing pilot reports and A/C data etc. All this can be reviewed by AAIB.

All the passengers, BRS and the airline are getting caught in the middle of ridiculous over regulation here!

Edit - Looking for a job. I have worked with their counterparts the RAIB. For an incident such as this, there is nothing that won't be covered through analysis of all the above I mentioned plus interviews with the pilots, cabin crew and atc. I appreciate everyone has a role to carry out, but there will be thousands of travel plans at stake here. Get those people moving!

birmingham 22nd Dec 2017 18:08


Originally Posted by LookingForAJob (Post 9998555)
Whilst I have sympathy for those whose travel plans have been disrupted, the fact that AAIB are interested suggests that there may be more to it than at first appears. Given that a relatively small aircraft, with a crew viewpoint quite close to the ground, was unable to stay on the pavement in LVP it might be reasonable to investigate whether there is some aspect of the airport that is deficient.

In my experience, an event in which there are no injuries and which has easily explained causes and contributory factors, is quickly released by the AAIB Inspector.

Do we know if the A/C had fully decelerated prior to the excursion?


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