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Welshtraveller 24th Aug 2020 07:03

Bristol to Madeira
 
Why has today’s flight to Madeira been delayed 24hrs? Thanks.

fanrailuk 24th Aug 2020 07:22


Originally Posted by Welshtraveller (Post 10868923)
Why has today’s flight to Madeira been delayed 24hrs? Thanks.

According to EZY it’s delayed due to high winds in FNC which is “beyond operational limits” there

TOM100 24th Aug 2020 10:18

odd others got in and Jet2 still operating......

richardwpprn 24th Aug 2020 12:02


Originally Posted by TOM100 (Post 10869065)
odd others got in and Jet2 still operating......

Perhaps EZY didn’t have flight crew with enough confidence at this tricky airport when it’s a bit windy.

HH6702 24th Aug 2020 12:49

Boeing / airbus and different companies will have all different levels of operating limits for winds etc

TOM100 24th Aug 2020 12:56

I guess - quite unusual to see an airline just cancel a whole days operation (various UK airports) with out reassessing the situation.

VentureGo 24th Aug 2020 13:08


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 10869195)
Boeing / airbus and different companies will have all different levels of operating limits for winds etc

TAP Air Portugal and British Airways are both operating Airbus a/c (A320N, A320, and A319) into Funchal today as scheduled.

(ref. FR24)

Welshtraveller 24th Aug 2020 14:21


Originally Posted by TOM100 (Post 10869202)
I guess - quite unusual to see an airline just cancel a whole days operation (various UK airports) with out reassessing the situation.

I agree. I would love to understand EasyJet’s thought process. Apart from the cancelled Easyjet flights all of the other flights landed with no problems.

SWBKCB 24th Aug 2020 14:25


I would love to understand EasyJet’s thought process
The thought process is easy - you avoid disruption to the rest of your programme by not having planes and crew out of place.

TOM100 24th Aug 2020 14:59


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10869267)
The thought process is easy - you avoid disruption to the rest of your programme by not having planes and crew out of place.

Yes but the other airlines didn’t ? I would also imagine they have a few spare aircraft kicking around at the moment....,,

planedrive 24th Aug 2020 19:12


Originally Posted by richardwpprn (Post 10869162)
Perhaps EZY didn’t have flight crew with enough confidence at this tricky airport when it’s a bit windy.

What a load of rubbish. EasyJet are one of the biggest operators at Madeira. Stop trolling.

TOM100 24th Aug 2020 20:19


Originally Posted by planedrive (Post 10869474)
What a load of rubbish. EasyJet are one of the biggest operators at Madeira. Stop trolling.

I agree the comment is tongue in cheek but I am really curious why TAP, BA, Jet2, Jetair, Transavia, Binter et al could all operate on time in and out yet U2 cancelled their whole day’s operation in the morning ?

PDXCWL45 25th Aug 2020 06:16


Originally Posted by TOM100 (Post 10869497)
I agree the comment is tongue in cheek but I am really curious why TAP, BA, Jet2, Jetair, Transavia, Binter et al could all operate on time in and out yet U2 cancelled their whole day’s operation in the morning ?

Because Easyjet are a lot more cautious. In general they seem less willing to risk the disruption to their operations compared to other airlines

SWBKCB 5th Oct 2020 07:58

Interesting comments - no idea how accurate the data is!


Bristol stands out. Of all of easyJet’s airports, it is its ninth-largest – but its third most profitable, with almost €69 million.

Bristol had the highest profit margin, with the LCC responsible for nearly 60% of the airport’s seats in this time period. Its network of routes there is similar to Gatwick: a wide mixture of domestic, leisure, sun, and business destinations
anna aero - easyJet’s most profitable airports revealed using RDC’s Apex platform

ATNotts 5th Oct 2020 08:09


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10898436)
Interesting comments - no idea how accurate the data is!



anna aero - easyJet’s most profitable airports revealed using RDC’s Apex platform

RDC appear to use a lot of supposition and extrapolation to come to their figures; that doesn't make them inaccurate, but analysts and accountants can make figures say what they want them to, and there will be a lot of variables, such as when and if fuel was hedged, and how much an airline really pays in airport fees (not the data base of published costs) that RDC appear to use as their calculation tool.

Whatever my thoughts and observations they appear to believe they are a reliable source.

fanrailuk 13th Oct 2020 16:20

Seems support for airport expansion is waning in the current climate...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-54521637

MerchantVenturer 14th Oct 2020 13:09


Originally Posted by fanrailuk (Post 10903797)
Seems support for airport expansion is waning in the current climate...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-54521637

There is nothing new in this. The Bath and North East Somerset unitary authority (B&NES) altered its political complexion radically at the May 2019 local elections changing an overall Conservative majority to an overall Lib-Dem majority. The newly constituted council was against Bristol Airport expansion from the outset. The Lib-Dem councillor who wants the West of England Combined Authority (Weca) to alter its stance on supporting the expansion is merely echoing climate change-based anti-expansion comments made frequently by her council colleagues since they were elected.

North Somerset unitary authority (NSC) in whose area the airport is situated also lost its overall Conservative majority at the May 2019 local elections to be replaced by a ‘rainbow council’ consisting of Lib-Dems, Greens, Labour and Independents, with the greatly reduced number of Conservatives in opposition. Some of the new councillors had previously expressed opposition to Bristol Airport expansion.

A perusal of the 235-page report submitted by the NSC planning officers to their planning committee councillors prior to the planning hearing, in which the officers recommended approval with conditions, shows that most of the other councils in the extended city region were, like Weca, in support of the planning application (Bristol, South Gloucestershire, Sedgemoor and Somerset County - Mendip made no comment).

I’m not aware of any of these councils changing their attitude, whether in support or in opposition, since the planning application was rejected by NSC in February this year with the rejection confirmed the following month.

There is an argument that the future of a regional facility such as an airport should not be left solely in the hands of just one council in the area.

I believe that an appeal to the national Planning Inspectorate will be in the best interests of the city region and its hinterland. The matter will be investigated thoroughly, objectively and impartially by a professional planning inspector who, unlike many councillors, will have no pre-conceived ideas, local pressures, prejudices or ingrained opinions. An appeal of this nature will involve a public enquiry.

The planning inspector can decide the outcome of the appeal himself or herself but with this one it’s likely that the secretary of state will ‘recover’ the appeal and make the final decision himself, with the planning inspector’s recommendations taken into account but not binding.

My ears are not completely closed to the views of anti-expansionists. I respect their right to hold them and indeed can empathise with some of their arguments, and whilst on balance I disagree with their main thrust I don’t support expansion at any cost. Improvements need to be made in a number of areas including those recommended by the NSC planning officers.

As someone who has used BRS a lot over many years and who lives near the flight path a few miles from the airport I will be entirely comfortable with whatever a planning inspector decides or, as the case may be, recommends to the secretary of state because I will be confident that it is based on legal and planning guidance and principles.

This could run and run because even if the planning inspector or secretary of state allows the airport’s appeal, and the appeal process won’t be quick, legal challenges would likely follow from opponents.

Pre-pandemic the airport had projected that its current 10 mppa cap would be reached or nearly so by the end of 2021. It’s obvious that won’t now occur for several years which provides more breathing space for the airport to wait out the appeal process.







OltonPete 10th Nov 2020 21:29

Jet2
 

Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer (Post 10904336)
There is nothing new in this. The Bath and North East Somerset unitary authority (B&NES) altered its political complexion radically at the May 2019 local elections changing an overall Conservative majority to an overall Lib-Dem majority. The newly constituted council was against Bristol Airport expansion from the outset. The Lib-Dem councillor who wants the West of England Combined Authority (Weca) to alter its stance on supporting the expansion is merely echoing climate change-based anti-expansion comments made frequently by her council colleagues since they were elected.

North Somerset unitary authority (NSC) in whose area the airport is situated also lost its overall Conservative majority at the May 2019 local elections to be replaced by a ‘rainbow council’ consisting of Lib-Dems, Greens, Labour and Independents, with the greatly reduced number of Conservatives in opposition. Some of the new councillors had previously expressed opposition to Bristol Airport expansion.

A perusal of the 235-page report submitted by the NSC planning officers to their planning committee councillors prior to the planning hearing, in which the officers recommended approval with conditions, shows that most of the other councils in the extended city region were, like Weca, in support of the planning application (Bristol, South Gloucestershire, Sedgemoor and Somerset County - Mendip made no comment).

I’m not aware of any of these councils changing their attitude, whether in support or in opposition, since the planning application was rejected by NSC in February this year with the rejection confirmed the following month.

There is an argument that the future of a regional facility such as an airport should not be left solely in the hands of just one council in the area.

I believe that an appeal to the national Planning Inspectorate will be in the best interests of the city region and its hinterland. The matter will be investigated thoroughly, objectively and impartially by a professional planning inspector who, unlike many councillors, will have no pre-conceived ideas, local pressures, prejudices or ingrained opinions. An appeal of this nature will involve a public enquiry.

The planning inspector can decide the outcome of the appeal himself or herself but with this one it’s likely that the secretary of state will ‘recover’ the appeal and make the final decision himself, with the planning inspector’s recommendations taken into account but not binding.

My ears are not completely closed to the views of anti-expansionists. I respect their right to hold them and indeed can empathise with some of their arguments, and whilst on balance I disagree with their main thrust I don’t support expansion at any cost. Improvements need to be made in a number of areas including those recommended by the NSC planning officers.

As someone who has used BRS a lot over many years and who lives near the flight path a few miles from the airport I will be entirely comfortable with whatever a planning inspector decides or, as the case may be, recommends to the secretary of state because I will be confident that it is based on legal and planning guidance and principles.

This could run and run because even if the planning inspector or secretary of state allows the airport’s appeal, and the appeal process won’t be quick, legal challenges would likely follow from opponents.

Pre-pandemic the airport had projected that its current 10 mppa cap would be reached or nearly so by the end of 2021. It’s obvious that won’t now occur for several years which provides more breathing space for the airport to wait out the appeal process.

Might need the expansion quickly if the Jet2 timetable is correct and the app.

Pete

MerchantVenturer 10th Nov 2020 21:36

There have been some strong rumours about a BRS Jet2 base in the past week or so. It looks as though they had legs.

BHX5DME 10th Nov 2020 21:37

32 (THIRTY TWO) routes from Jet 2


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