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MerchantVenturer 3rd Mar 2018 10:50

January 2018 Passenger Stats
 
BRS was not amongst the first group of airports in the CAA's January stats so still awaiting those.

The airport's own figures show that 480,231 terminal passengers used the airport in January, up 2.8% on its own figures for January 2017. The airport doesn't provide rolling 12-month totals based on its own figures.

However, for some reason BRS does not include all passengers in its monthly and annual figures - under 2s are one example - with the result that its monthly and annual passnger numbers are less than the CAA's, even though the CAA gets its own figures from the airport. I've asked BRS more than once in the past why they do this but have never received a logical answer - not logical to me anyway. Cynics might suggest it would mean their current 10 mppa passenger cap is that bit further away but I don't think that's the reason.

The airport's stats page carries this note: Due to differences in the way some flights are recorded, Bristol Airport figures may contain small variances when compared to those reported by the UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA).

Depends what is meant by small. In 2017 the CAA recorded the airport handling 8.234 million terminal passengers whilst BRS made it 8.137 million (97,000 fewer).

Based on a 2.8% rise on the CAA stats for January 2017 they would show around 487,000 terminal passengers for January 2018 with a rolling 12-month total of 8.247 million.

Jersey32D 3rd Mar 2018 13:01


Originally Posted by cwlwatcher (Post 10071580)
Having a look at the seat bookings on ryanairs news routes. valencia starting at the end of the month only 36 seats taken, shannon starting in may only 9 seats reserved

That just indicates the number of pax who've chosen advanced seat selection. Not booked totals.

Severn 3rd Mar 2018 13:28


Originally Posted by cwlwatcher (Post 10071576)
so bristol airport fiddling with statistics? scandalous

What ARE you on about?

MerchantVenturer very clearly stated that because BRS don't count passengers under 2 years old, their numbers are therefore FEWER than the CAAs figures.... How have you therefore decided that this means BRS is fiddling the numbers...?!

Can you just head back to the Cardiff thread please?

yeo valley 3rd Mar 2018 13:32


Originally Posted by cwlwatcher (Post 10071576)
so bristol airport fiddling with statistics? scandalous

I'm sure the mods don't want comments that you have just posted. I hope you have proof in what you say ,if no proof then why say things like you have written. I' do hope the mods keep a good eye on what you write in youre posts and do the correct thing in banning you from posting in these forums. with slander comments against who ever has landed the poster in court and cost them lots of money. So be carefull what you write in future,i would suggest you stay on the cwl thread ,perhaps that way you will keep yr posts less slanderous.

LGS6753 3rd Mar 2018 14:00

I wonder how accurately airports account for passengers/crew of executive aircraft. And what about flying clubs - I'm sure they don't indicate for every departure/arrival whether there are 1,2 or 3 persons on board.

MerchantVenturer 9th Mar 2018 19:32

bmi
 
https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/abo...-paris-service

bmi is to increase its BRS-CDG route to 3 x daily Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays from May.

easyJet has not increased its once daily service on the route for a number of years despite regularly selling out, so perhaps an opportune time for bmi.

LGS6753 22nd Mar 2018 16:48

Slot allocations for S18 now published by ACL:

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...rt-BRS-S18.pdf

BHX5DME 22nd Mar 2018 20:10

Bristol seats for S18

1. easyjet = 3,661,182 (up 337,620 on S17)
2. Ryanair = 1,423,926 (up 32,458 on S17)
3. Tui = 648,804 (up 143,452 on S17)
4. Thomas Cook = 427,440 (up 101,520 on S17)
5. BMIR = 224,674 (up 28,892 on S17)
6. KLM = 166,776 (down 4,928 on S17)
7. Aer Lingus = 125,568 (down 8,006 on S17)
8. Eastern = 43,400 (down 116 on S17)
9. FlyBe = 33,456 (up 4,644 on S17)
10. Auringey = 31,248 (up 2,736 on S17)

Total 6,887,325 (up 494,159 on S17)

Decent % increase for Bristol in 2018

andrew1968 26th Mar 2018 14:59

TUI Summer 2019
 
TUI UK have to today announced further expansion at BRS for Summer 2019

Highlights:-
Longhaul - Cancun becomes twice weekly.
Short/Mid Haul - Marrakech becomes year round, Halkidiki returns, extra frequencies to Antalya and Kefalonia.
Also additional cruise flight to Naples

Longhaul for Summer 19 will be as follows:
Cancun - Twice Weekly
Orlando - Once Weekly
Punta Cana - Once Weekly
The above requires a based 787 4 days a week, should Cape Verde remain a 787 route as per Summer 18, then a 787 will need to be based 5 days a week.

andrew1968 26th Mar 2018 15:37

CAA Stats for February 2018
 
CAA Stats for February 2018 published......

Feb Pax 517,201 up 5.6%

Rolling 12 months Pax 8,274,458 up 7.2%

Feb Atm 4,246 up 2.9%

Rolling 12 months Atm's 64,016 up 3.3%

http://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/...t_data_2018_02/Airport_Statistics_Summary.pdf

crackling jet 10th Apr 2018 17:30

45 YEARS TODAY
 
Swiss air disaster 45 years today, Invicta vanguard G-AXOP BRS-BSL.


God Bless em all

airworld 10th Apr 2018 19:19

CUN Twice a week! Tech stop MAN Twice a week! PAX unaware Twice a week !!!!!!!

Originally Posted by andrew1968 (Post 10097670)
TUI UK have to today announced further expansion at BRS for Summer 2019

Highlights:-
Longhaul - Cancun becomes twice weekly.
Short/Mid Haul - Marrakech becomes year round, Halkidiki returns, extra frequencies to Antalya and Kefalonia.
Also additional cruise flight to Naples

Longhaul for Summer 19 will be as follows:
Cancun - Twice Weekly
Orlando - Once Weekly
Punta Cana - Once Weekly
The above requires a based 787 4 days a week, should Cape Verde remain a 787 route as per Summer 18, then a 787 will need to be based 5 days a week.


marko1 10th Apr 2018 19:32


Originally Posted by airworld (Post 10113674)
CUN Twice a week! Tech stop MAN Twice a week! PAX unaware Twice a week !!!!!!!

And where do u get that information from ? As far as I am aware a technical stop was only required 3 or 4 times last summer due to weather conditions. The cancun service is scheduled as non stop twice a week.

caaardiff 10th Apr 2018 21:02


CUN Twice a week! Tech stop MAN Twice a week! PAX unaware Twice a week !!!!!!!
It's not planned to go via MAN so pax wouldn't be aware until the figures are calculated prior to take off. The weather conditions either at BRS or en route is usually the deciding factor. Unfortunate, but not that common.

MerchantVenturer 13th Apr 2018 20:23

easyJet winter 18/19
 
easyJet is continuing its winter expansion at BRS of recent years (Bordeaux and Bilbao became year-round from last winter) with both Catania and Naples extended into the winter season for the first time, both at 2 x weekly. Seville which begins in June at 2 x weekly will operate through the winter at 3 x weekly with Nice also operating right through the winter instead of taking its mid-season break. Prague is increased to daily in November and December, 5 x weekly in January. easyJet is yet to release February and March timetable.

The remainder of the schedule seems broadly similar to last winter, albeit a few routes do have additional weekly rotations.

Seville will be up against Ryanair’s new route that starts this winter at 2 x weekly and easyJet will operate Venice at 4 x weekly again but increased to 5/6 x weekly for most of December and early January against Ryanair’s daily Venice (in summer 2018 easyJet operates daily to Venice for most of the season with Ryanair 4 x weekly).

I posted the apparent Ryanair winter 18/19 programme per the booking engine some weeks ago, although as far as I know it is yet to be announced officially. As with easyJet, Ryanair has been significantly increasing its winter offering at BRS in recent years.

shamrock7seal 14th Apr 2018 02:22

Is there really enough demand to warrant such huge capacity at BRS? It seems relentless - where is BRS’s saturation point? At this rate they will be overtaking BHX!

I’d like to see better global connections from BRS like Turkish Airlines to Istanbul, Emirates to Dubai (787-8 or 9 has no issue with BRS runway length as far as I know) becasue further expansion into European sun and city routes seems overkill.

There can hardly be any short haul leakage to London airports anymore from the BRS catchment

PDXCWL45 14th Apr 2018 04:57


Originally Posted by shamrock7seal (Post 10117735)
Is there really enough demand to warrant such huge capacity at BRS? It seems relentless - where is BRS’s saturation point? At this rate they will be overtaking BHX!

I’d like to see better global connections from BRS like Turkish Airlines to Istanbul, Emirates to Dubai (787-8 or 9 has no issue with BRS runway length as far as I know) becasue further expansion into European sun and city routes seems overkill.

There can hardly be any short haul leakage to London airports anymore from the BRS catchment

Easyjet must feel there is as they continue to expand and Easyjet aren't exactly a reckless airline. Emirates don't have the aircraft to operate from Bristol and Etihad are cutting routes with Qatar in the area can't see either being interested. Turkish is an interesting one but surely if they were going to operate from Bristol they'd have started by now?
Bristols long haul hopes lies with TUI.

bycrewlgw 14th Apr 2018 07:13


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10117819)
Easyjet must feel there is as they continue to expand and Easyjet aren't exactly a reckless airline. Emirates don't have the aircraft to operate from Bristol and Etihad are cutting routes with Qatar in the area can't see either being interested. Turkish is an interesting one but surely if they were going to operate from Bristol they'd have started by now?
Bristols long haul hopes lies with TUI.

Will EK be able to use the 787-10 at BRS even with a reduced load? Not sure if they’d want to dilute BHX and LHR though. Interesting though that EK don’t offer connections to BrS like they do to CWL via GLA

caaardiff 14th Apr 2018 08:05


Will EK be able to use the 787-10 at BRS even with a reduced load? Not sure if they’d want to dilute BHX and LHR though. Interesting though that EK don’t offer connections to BrS like they do to CWL via GLA
The 787-100 is 38ft longer than the -800, but with the same wingspan. So on the ground shouldn't be an issue. Apparently EK's will seat between 240-330 passengers, where TUI's -800's seat 300.
I guess it's all dependant on weight and performance. Bearing in mind EK would probably want some kind of cargo operation.

There aren't many flights EK could codeshare on at BRS. They don't tend to tie up with KL/AF, which only leaves BM and EI as a scheduled carrier as FR, EZY etc don't do codeshares.

PDXCWL45 14th Apr 2018 08:05


Originally Posted by bycrewlgw (Post 10117926)
Will EK be able to use the 787-10 at BRS even with a reduced load? Not sure if they’d want to dilute BHX and LHR though. Interesting though that EK don’t offer connections to BrS like they do to CWL via GLA

I doubt they can i think BRS can handle the 787 9 and thats the biggest it can handle. I'm sure someone would know more than me though.
The lack of connections may be because the main airline is Easyjet and not one like Flybe or BMI.


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