2018 pax number's
Any idea on what the passenger numbers for 2018 were?,The last quarter figure's are not uploaded to CSO yet
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Nothing official yet.
Rolling year to the end of September was 2.61m For the last two months compared to 2017, Paris (Air France), Faro, Lisbon and Luton were gained. Newcastle and Providence were lost. So I suspect it will be around the 2.8m-2.9m mark for the year. Incidentally, in a sign that the route struggels with capacity in the lean months, Air France aren't flying to Paris on Tuesday and Wednesday in January and February, while Aer Lingus aren't on Tuesday and Saturday in January. Clearly no collusion as there are no Tuesday flights at all, but two flights on Thursdays, which isn't a much busier day. |
Originally Posted by 840
(Post 10362358)
Nothing official yet.
Rolling year to the end of September was 2.61m For the last two months compared to 2017, Paris (Air France), Faro, Lisbon and Luton were gained. Newcastle and Providence were lost. So I suspect it will be around the 2.8m-2.9m mark for the year. Incidentally, in a sign that the route struggels with capacity in the lean months, Air France aren't flying to Paris on Tuesday and Wednesday in January and February, while Aer Lingus aren't on Tuesday and Saturday in January. Clearly no collusion as there are no Tuesday flights at all, but two flights on Thursdays, which isn't a much busier day. |
Sorry. There should be a 3 in all those. Not sure what happened. Those figures would imply 25%+ growth. 2.361m as the rolling figure. Not that different from yours. Possibly excludes those on private flights? And then 2.38m to 2.39m for the year. |
Originally Posted by 840
(Post 10362578)
Sorry. There should be a 3 in all those. Not sure what happened. Those figures would imply 25%+ growth. 2.361m as the rolling figure. Not that different from yours. Possibly excludes those on private flights? And then 2.38m to 2.39m for the year. |
Norwegian to close providence base - not sure how this will affect the cork service but can’t be overly positive given the route is still operating with a reduced load |
It means that all routes out of PVD with the exception of Dublin will be cancelled this year. Cork airport management would be wise to pick up the phone and talk to WOW, JetBlue, Aer Lingus (A321 NEO) and WestJet for North Atlantic services. It`s only a question of time before Norwegian goes bankrupt.
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner_01
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Norwegian to close providence base - not sure how this will affect the cork service but can’t be overly positive given the route is still operating with a reduced load Newburgh Providence Palma Tenerife rome FCO |
Rome FCO will remain as a base, but only for Dreamliners, not for 737s.
Originally Posted by CCR
(Post 10362749)
It means that all routes out of PVD with the exception of Dublin will be cancelled this year. Cork airport management would be wise to pick up the phone and talk to WOW, JetBlue, Aer Lingus (A321 NEO) and WestJet for North Atlantic services. It`s only a question of time before Norwegian goes bankrupt.
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I can only see WestJet and JetBlue from that list being at all possible and JetBlue very unlikely. Air Canada Rouge may be another airline to throw in the mix though.
The blow to Cork will be largely psychological, losing the only TA link. Passenger numbers were likely to be a total of around 1% of airport passengers next year. This will be much worse in Shannon, where Norwegian represent about 5% of total passengers. Shannon is more likely to pick up replacement carriers though. |
I think people are getting a bit excited. The main routes effected are Spain-Germany. https://e24.no/boers-og-finans/norwe...baser/24541991 The Dublin 737MAX base remains, and Norwegian have stated that there are no changes to services from Ireland. It seems an expensive set-up to have so many bases just to serve ORK/DUB/SNN and Scandinavia. It’s probably better to organise road transport to ORK/SNN or “W” patterns like DUB-PVD-ORK-PVD-DUB. EI have been doing it for years. |
I tend to agree with the suggestion that they won't be around as an airline all that much longer though. At best they will absorbed into another operation.
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Irish routes remaining https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rte.ie/amp/1023693/ |
I've seen it stated in a couple of places (airport twitter account and media source) that Cork Airport handled 2.4m passengers last year. There are no official figures yet though.
That's a bit higher than the 2.38m-2.39m range that I was expecting. Now it may be that there has been rounding to two significant figures and that it is in that range. If it is actually that high, it suggests a very good November and December. |
Originally Posted by 840
(Post 10376198)
I've seen it stated in a couple of places (airport twitter account and media source) that Cork Airport handled 2.4m passengers last year. There are no official figures yet though.
That's a bit higher than the 2.38m-2.39m range that I was expecting. Now it may be that there has been rounding to two significant figures and that it is in that range. If it is actually that high, it suggests a very good November and December. |
Final figure was 2,392,821. |
Not sure I buy poor loads, suspect something else is planned either at Cork or from Shannon. |
Agreed. There has been no problem with loads to Southampton. Yields may be another matter.
I suspect the aircraft could make more money on extra rotations to Birmingham or Edinburgh, although the sector time to Edinburgh may be too long to fill whatever gap is created by Southampton. Another possibility is that with the tie-up of Stobart and FlyBe, they may transfer operation of the route to Cardiff to Stobart and sell through the EI Regional brand. |
N France now that FR have cancelled La Rochelle or Nantes or SNN-BRS would be my guesses. I know France will unlikely happen.
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Originally Posted by EI-EIDW
(Post 10394499)
Not sure I buy poor loads, suspect something else is planned either at Cork or from Shannon. Maybe there will be a transfer to flyBe. Seems a bit early for that, however. The take-over isn’t finalised yet, I don’t think? |
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