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I would suggest something along the lines of what they did with British Airtours - the same British Airways colourscheme - but title the aircraft 'British European'. Caledonian they did a similar thing with, but revised the branding to include the lion.
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Or IAG might just keep them as Flybe? If they buy them.
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I like the idea another poster had of making better use of Flybe aircraft for a take-over of the Aer Lingus Regional operation. After all, this should 'ideally' be in-house rather than lining the pockets of a completely separate business (to the group).
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From a strategic perspective IAG could see value in Flybe as follows Eliminate competition at LCY. Bring EI-R and Cityflyer contract flying ‘in-house’ Reduce AMS flows and reorientate to Dublin BMI slots default back to BA (Would Loganair give it a go?) Tactically, BA could ring fence Flybe Heathrow for domestics such as JER GCI LDY DND rather than EDI ABZ. Well trained and respected future pilot base for BA and EI. |
Not sure whether this has already been mentioned but in addition to the new LHR-Newquay 4x daily from 31 March 2019 they are adding a fifth rotation on LHR-EDI. This means they will have 12 weekday departures at LHR from Spring 2019.
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Couple of things here from my perspective;
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No one appears to have mentioned Lufthansa as a potential acquirer. LH group has been quite acquisitive over the years in Central Europe but their UK presence is fairly modest in comparison with say AF/KL. It would also strengthen Star Alliance in the UK as it is clearly the weakest airline grouping here at present.
But then again, maybe they got their fingers burnt with BMI. |
Some fair points by EI-BUD though I would pick up on a couple. While regional flying outside of London isn’t done by BA currently and is something WW got out of in the past, it doesn’t mean they couldn’t or shouldn’t do it now under the right conditions. For example, if routes or a base (I’m thinking the likes of SOU, EXT) are profitable and aren’t so likely to see LCC competition, why not keep them? There is precedent for this within IAG already, for example EIR have some relatively oddball routes out of ORK and SNN to the UK and France and Air Nostrum/IB Regional fly around regional Spanish cities and the Balearics. You question a lead-in to 2022 for EIR routes but that isn’t too ridiculous. We’re almost in 2019 already with summer ‘19 on sale, pruning would likely occur in 2020 along with back-office integration, further transition in 2021 and you’re there already. |
tigertanaka, surely the disease that is BREXIT will scupper any ideas that mainland European carriers have of investing into UK aviation?
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Depends what you call European. AF/KL is arguably Delta through the back door.
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It would also strengthen Star Alliance in the UK as it is clearly the weakest airline grouping here at present. AF/KL is arguably Delta though the back door. |
I know Oltonpete was having problems posting spreadsheet data in post #1175 dated 25th November.
I have taken the liberty of reproducing his file as a screenshot...... https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e8fd26361d.png Hopefully I have done credit to your post, although I notice that you have the Newquay flight going to Newquay, and I'll PM you the full process. |
Flybe
Originally Posted by Scottie Dog
(Post 10322839)
I know Oltonpete was having problems posting spreadsheet data in post #1175 dated 25th November.
I have taken the liberty of reproducing his file as a screenshot...... https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e8fd26361d.png Hopefully I have done credit to your post, although I notice that you have the Newquay flight going to Newquay, and I'll PM you the full process. That looks good and this part of the post was pretty accurate I believe for last Monday, I did slip up on the number of active aircraft - it is 69 with around 3-4 in maintenance but still around 8 and 12 spare although aircraft 11 is back at BHX next week on certain days. Pete |
BE and MAEL part company
Been reported that Monarch Engineering will no longer provide maintenance for Fly Be.
Allegations that Fly Be fell behind with its payments and MAEL have excluded them . Big loss of business for MAEL probably 2 or 3 planes a night go through the BHX facility.Still if BE are not keeping up payments MAEL have little choice. Nigel |
Originally Posted by nigel osborne
(Post 10323943)
Been reported that Monarch Engineering will no longer provide maintenance for Fly Be.
Allegations that Fly Be fell behind with its payments and MAEL have excluded them . Big loss of business for MAEL probably 2 or 3 planes a night go through the BHX facility.Still if BE are not keeping up payments MAEL have little choice. Nigel I'm sure Flybe will find a new contract soon enough and it may be a nudge to bring more maintenance where possible back in-house. If anything, this going to be a loss for MAEL due to short term restructuring. Flybe themselves have even gone as far as saying; " Flybe are sympathetic to the many employees of MAEL who may be affected by the loss of work at MAEL and will be offering employment opportunities for engineers at Birmingham and Manchester, increasing the size of Flybe bases at those locations and benefitting from establishing our own comprehensive maintenance operations.” |
No Nigel that isn't the reason. The reason is MAEL's issue.
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset
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No Nigel that isn't the reason. The reason is MAEL's issue.
They have also I believe lost or will soon lose the Boeing contract at Gatwick. MAEL will soon be no more IMO, sadly. The decision to move some engineering back in house is a good one and outsourcing main bases was never a good idea. Again IMO it is being driven by the main suitor. The figure I have been quoted that Flybe we’re paying MAEL while very high was not something they couldn’t afford. Heaven forbid Flybe we’re trying to find a way to get out of the MAEL as part of the sale transaction... |
Originally Posted by nigel osborne
(Post 10323943)
Been reported that Monarch Engineering will no longer provide maintenance for Fly Be.
Allegations that Fly Be fell behind with its payments and MAEL have excluded them . Big loss of business for MAEL probably 2 or 3 planes a night go through the BHX facility.Still if BE are not keeping up payments MAEL have little choice. Nigel |
Just curious. How long after a route launch do the codeshares get added ? have tried to book a connecting flight post April ex NQY and can’t get any connections offered apart from BHX and MAN when we’re after connecting at LHR to JFK cs |
Have any codeshares been announced for LHR?
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