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daz211 16th Sep 2017 08:54

Well all I can say is Jet2 will be loving this at Stansted, today I think I counted 6x cancelled flights for Ryanair.
I'm not saying that Jet2 fly the same routes that Ryanair have cancelled but people will jumping ship from Ryanair even more than in the past.
Even jittery passengers just worried will be checking alternative websites just in case and that can only be good news for other airlines more so Jet2 at Stansted

WHBM 16th Sep 2017 10:02

Surely an opportunity for the Chairmen of Monarch and Norwegian to get their own back and say that Ryanair must be running out of cash.

http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...ng-out-of-cash

BigFrank 16th Sep 2017 10:16

Fascinating how little reaction this news engenders here. Well it is for me !

The Guardian (London) is currently quoting almost 300 000 customers affected; how does this compare to the IAG/ BA meltdown recently?

i)Does anyone know if these are the true figures?

ii) "Compare" both in numbers and in severity?

At a brief glance, and based on rapid mental calculation, closing share price in Dublin yesterday was 17.07€; down roughly 5.5% in the last 2 days.

mrshubigbus 16th Sep 2017 10:36

About time O'Leary, smug as ever, had his come uppence! When you've got 400 737s, don't employ enough people and screw your existing staff into the ground, or should that be an early grave, then you deserve everything that comes your way! It's about time everyone involved with this industry's biggest bully started standing up to the most overbearing nasty piece of work we've seen for long time. Southwest don't do things this way! First rule of any successful business is to treat your staff well! Respect / loyalty surely count's for something? Well it did once upon a time. Maybe that was in some parallel universe somewhere? It certainly didn't spread as far as Dublin or Stansted! The sad fact is he is flying 400 737s with another couple of hundred on the way! If you'd said that was remotely possible 25 years ago, I think most folk on Pprune would have said:- "don't be silly"!? Well it's happened and O'Leary seems to unfortunately thrive on negative press reports as much has he does positive! Is this current nonsense really going to make any difference to the bottom line when you can sell seats on your aeroplanes for a tenner each way and still make money? You take your chance otherwise you book to fly with somebody else. And law of averages suggest that it'll all work out 99% of the time when you pay a fraction of what you might pay elsewhere!

daz211 16th Sep 2017 10:38

hope this link works found via twitter today's cancelled flights

https://www.cloud.scorebuddy.co.uk/r...ate=2017-09-16

daz211 16th Sep 2017 10:45

Obviously Stansted is affected quite bad regarding cancelled flights I wonder how many cabin crew and flight deck jumped ship to jet2 when they opened a base this year and with more aircraft due for 2018 how many more will follow.

DaveReidUK 16th Sep 2017 10:48


Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 9893479)
Fascinating how little reaction this news engenders here. Well it is for me !

The Guardian (London) is currently quoting almost 300 000 customers affected; how does this compare to the IAG/ BA meltdown recently?

i) Does anyone know if these are the true figures?

ii) "Compare" both in numbers and in severity?

The number of affected passengers sounds in the right ballpark for six weeks' worth of cancellations.

Of course it's nonsense to suggest that the effect on every one of those passengers is comparable to the BA meltdown. It's not like 300,000 passengers are going to roll up at the airport expecting to fly, only to be told on the day that their flight isn't going.

FRatSTN 16th Sep 2017 10:48

Cabin Bag Policy
 
I don't know how Ryanair can think that effectively carrying even more bags in the hold from November is going to help their punctuality. Yes it gives passengers more clarity to an extent but it's hardly a customer friendly approach.

I can't understand why they haven't just thought of allocating over-head locker space at check-in? The airline will know exactly how many people have Priority Boarding, Flexi Plus etc. By all means, give those passengers first dibs, then allocate the rest based on check-in seq. number - or even randomly?

Your boarding pass could then be issued with something like "Large Cabin-bag Permitted" or "Free Check-in Bag Permitted". That way you're not only giving people prior warning but you'd in theory totally eradicate both the scrum and baggage delays at the boarding gate.

lagerlout 16th Sep 2017 10:52

What an utter shambles
 
Ryanair must have chronic crew shortage.

Even if this was to do with leave it should have been accounted for when the programme was put together.

This is utterly shambolic and 100% nothing to do with on time performance.

A disgrace. I hope every single passenger claims every cent they are due through EU regs.

EI-EIDW 16th Sep 2017 11:06


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 9893404)
That will be news to the IAA.

"The Irish Aviation Authority is responsible for the management of Irish controlled airspace, the safety regulation of Irish civil aviation and the oversight of civil aviation security in Ireland."

Who We Are

Which part of that covers a staff shortage and by the way they don't regulate EU261. You can also take the case to Small Claims Court if the airline doesn't resolve it.
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Looks like a lot more than 50 cancelled today.....
https://www.cloud.scorebuddy.co.uk/r...ate=2017-09-16

daz211 16th Sep 2017 11:09

Ryanair stated 40-50 daily flights cancelled
But from Ryanair's website for today I count 80 that's almost double

SeaBreeze1 16th Sep 2017 12:06

This all has nothing to do with on-time performance and very little to do with staff annual leave.

The big problem here is crew shortage. Rumour from within says RYR are losing approx 150-200 pilots and cabin crew every couple of months. Hundreds of pilots, cc and engineers went to J2 since opening STN and BHX bases alone. Approx 400 are currently work their 3months notice as we speak.

Their policy of "everybody is replaceable, you want to leave? Get out" is unsustainable and big changes need to happen...fast.

DaveReidUK 16th Sep 2017 12:21


Originally Posted by EI-EIDW (Post 9893531)
Which part of that covers a staff shortage and by the way they don't regulate EU261.

Read my post again.

My response "that will be news to the IAA" was in answer to the assertion that they did regulate EU261.

These are the people you need (Ireland's designated national enforcement agency for EU261):

Commission for Aviation Regulation

airsound 16th Sep 2017 12:29

What's Ryanair doing now?
 
Ryanair to cancel 40-50 flights per day for six weeks - BBC News
They say it's to improve their punctuality figures, which have recently slumped from roughly 90% to roughly 80%.

Other suggestions are that the change of leave year for crews has caused lots to take leave early.

Anyone know what the real reasons are?

EI-EIDW 16th Sep 2017 12:40


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 9893585)
Read my post again.

My response "that will be news to the IAA" was in answer to the assertion that they did regulate EU261.

These are the people you need (Ireland's designated national enforcement agency for EU261):

Commission for Aviation Regulation

Yeah apologies, been a busy day. It was indeed intended for the other poster.

BigFrank 16th Sep 2017 12:42

Ryanair omnishambles vs IAG omnishambles
 

Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 9893515)

Of course it's nonsense to suggest that the effect on every one of those passengers is comparable to the BA meltdown. It's not like 300,000 passengers are going to roll up at the airport expecting to fly, only to be told on the day that their flight isn't going.

You're clear on that.

But are you right?

Obviously the people whose flights are cancelled today have (in many cases much) less than 24 hours notice.

And those tomorrow, logically, 48 hours notice. Then 72 etc.

But is this true?

Do people whose flight on Monday is cancelled now know that?

"It seems not" is what I would say.

In addition, you confirm that the Guardian figure of nearly 300 000 affected in total is correct.

Yet one poster here claims that today's cancellations by Ryanair amount to 80 flights vs the 40-50 announced.

Might that bring the total figure affected to nearer 550 000?

Always assuming the figures stay at "only" [not I confess a direct quote from any company press release] 80 per day.

DaveReidUK 16th Sep 2017 12:54

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...anair-9-a.html

Mr A Tis 16th Sep 2017 13:02

Ryanair staff get leave? Wow.

DaveReidUK 16th Sep 2017 13:04


Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 9893603)
Obviously the people whose flights are cancelled today have (in many cases much) less than 24 hours notice.

And those tomorrow, logically, 48 hours notice. Then 72 etc.

But is this true?

Do people whose flight on Monday is cancelled now know that?

"It seems not" is what I would say.

Fair point.

In an ideal world, given that everyone flying Ryanair has booked online, the airline would be furiously emailing anyyone who has already checked in to advise them of the cancellation before (hopefully) they have set off for the airport.

Similarly anyone attempting to check in online for a flight that RYR have decided not to operate should be informed at that point.

But then again, this is Ryanair we're talking about.

BigFrank 16th Sep 2017 13:18

At risk of putting words into your mouth, you seem to be suggesting that "Ryanair is above the law; whether Irish or EU; for example regarding 261/2004"

Surely this cannot be the case.

Surely?


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