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How will one access the expanded T5 - seems to be completely surrounded by aircraft . . .?
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 10497633)
If I operated any of the car parks currently along the North side of the Northern runway - I'd be worred as they have all been replaced by warehouse structures. So how much space will be needed for new car parks? ;)
a series of new multi-storey car parks off the Southern Perimeter Road car parks just to the south of the M4, on either side of the spur a car park under the eastern half of the new runway (!) It's not clear how all this new parking squares with Heathrow's declared objective of getting a much larger modal share of passengers out of their cars and onto public transport.
Originally Posted by Torquelink
(Post 10497765)
How will one access the expanded T5 - seems to be completely surrounded by aircraft . . .?
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 10497633)
If I operated any of the car parks currently along the North side of the Northern runway - I'd be worred as they have all been replaced by warehouse structures. So how much space will be needed for new car parks? ;)
Now I see Druk has answered Tunnels to access all terminals but it is in a flood plain so bring your wet suit. |
Nice new ATC tower, not seen that before:8
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Originally Posted by Trinity 09L
(Post 10497820)
Nice new ATC tower, not seen that before:8
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 10498400)
It's part of the plan to remove the need to build a secondary control tower to deal with the new runway.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....487b6648cc.jpg |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10498521)
But a secondary control tower is exactly what it does appear to be:
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"Yes, and as part of cost control pressure from HAL, NATS are working hard to prevent a full build out "
So HAL - a private company - tell NATS a private company (less a golden share owned by HMG) go save us some money and put the tower there, as it will be in the way of our profitable shopping terminal. Please enlighten us, will the redundant tower be sold off & moved, or used as a unique roof top restaurant. |
Garuda Jakarta apparently back on sale... |
Originally Posted by Trinity 09L
(Post 10498828)
"Yes, and as part of cost control pressure from HAL, NATS are working hard to prevent a full build out "
So HAL - a private company - tell NATS a private company (less a golden share owned by HMG) go save us some money and put the tower there, as it will be in the way of our profitable shopping terminal. Please enlighten us, will the redundant tower be sold off & moved, or used as a unique roof top restaurant. At LCY the old tower is no longer fit for purpose and as part of the terminal rebuild a new terminal is required. NATS is not competitive on costs partly due to their “business” model of also being the en-route provider. NATS have lost ATC provision at LGW, BHX, EDI of late, all major contracts. Hence they’re leveraging their lead in technology to build out a digital option at LCY to save them even building a new tower. Also less likely to lose ATC contract at LCY if this can be done. This proof of concept then allows a case to be made at LHR to use a new digital tower based in the main ATC tower, to run runway 3, removing the cost of a multi million pound new tower build and fitting out. That’s my understanding, if you know something that differs then please share. |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 10500968)
perhaps reading comprehension just isn’t your forte? |
Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 10501142)
Always the last dig. Why not just play nice... |
Is there anywhere within Terminal 2 or inside the perimeter of the airport that I can see aircraft land? I’m collecting a friend from T2 later this morning and was hoping to see her flight land prior to going to the arrivals area? |
27L arrivals this morning so go to Myrtle Avenue or areas in that vicinity. You will get a cracking view!
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Originally Posted by destinationsky
(Post 10510133)
27L arrivals this morning so go to Myrtle Avenue or areas in that vicinity. You will get a cracking view!
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If you are on foot then it is even easier. From T2, follow signs for London underground and get on the Piccadilly line towards London. Get off at Hatton Cross, leave the station and you will be pretty much underneath the arrivals stream for 27L. Takes no more than 10mins and I think it is still within the free travel area - may be best to speak to a member of staff to see if you can leave the station as it may be only an interchange area. If not, will cost you a few £s for a return.
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Originally Posted by destinationsky
(Post 10510160)
If you are on foot then it is even easier. From T2, follow signs for London underground and get on the Piccadilly line towards London. Get off at Hatton Cross, leave the station and you will be pretty much underneath the arrivals stream for 27L. Takes no more than 10mins and I think it is still within the free travel area - may be best to speak to a member of staff to see if you can leave the station as it may be only an interchange area. If not, will cost you a few £s for a return.
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Thanks for the valuable info both 👌 I’ll give it a try 👍 |
Private Eye
Interesting item in Private Eye confirming the gaping hole in terms of finance for the rail infastruture to support expansion. Interesting that this is costed at a whopping £15bn.
Unfortunately PE omitted to mention the restructuring of the M25, it's still not clear whose stumping up for that but I would suggest we are looking at another £5bn minimum. Looks like regional transport will be dining on bread and water for two generations minimum. |
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Don't worry about this cost - R3 will never be built. |
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