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davidjohnson6 15th Apr 2019 21:16

Jet Airways slots
 
Those who have been following the news about Jet will be aware that international flying is currently suspended. Furthermore with news today that emergency funding will not be available from banks, the likelihood of their resuming flying from Heathrow in the near future seems unlikely

Jet were leasing 3 daily slot pairs from an airline in the UAE who shall remain nameless. While it is possible the new rotations could begin soon, the fact that the UAE based airline has recently been shrinking rather than growing suggest new flights are maybe unlikely - at most 1 additional flight per day. That leaves at least 2 slot pairs per day which need to be either used or lost - leasing them out (or a sale) seems the most likely option.

Jet had departures from LHR to India at 0930, 2010 and 2120 in UK summer time. The flights to the UAE are at 0935, 1500 and 2045. With a forced seller, the buyer can afford to bid a little lower than they might do otherwise. Clearly the 2 evening slots will appeal to Asian carriers, while the morning slot may interest North American operators. Who apart from BA can find a way to use these slots at short notice, is cash rich, and would be prepared to pay what the seller would likely want as a price ?

Skipness One Foxtrot 15th Apr 2019 21:49

AUH-LHR is now 4 daily on certain days as a B789 rotation has been added.

Anyone know what happens to the slots Air Canada would have used for YHZ and YYT? They won’t be operating until the B737 MAX gets flying again, the daytime AC868 has already beed retimed.

Flightrider 16th Apr 2019 07:13

AC (and anyone else affected by Max issues) are likely to be able to apply for their historic rights to their slots to be protected under the force majeure provision in the slot regulations if they are unable to operate their slots. The big airline from Abu Dhabi, on the other hand, has no such protection from an airline to whom it has leased its slots ceasing trading.

JobsaGoodun 16th Apr 2019 21:17


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10448331)
Who apart from BA can find a way to use these slots at short notice, is cash rich, and would be prepared to pay what the seller would likely want as a price ?

If they want to protect them for future use, it'll be Etihad opening the chequebook rather than the other way around. A hefty dowry will be required by any airline taking these slots, and adding new flying at such short notice if Etihad cannot fly them themselves.

If they want to sell them then a distressed sale could enable a carrier to pick up some slots at a knock down price.


AirportPlanner1 16th Apr 2019 21:48

If I were them Id bung Flybe some cash to open a new route starting in two weeks to Jersey or suchlike for the summer, to go along with their new Guernsey and IOM ventures.

MAN777 18th Apr 2019 21:35

Eco warriors to shut LHR Good Friday !!
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...w-Airport.html

cloudey 19th Apr 2019 07:50

Does anyone know why at 8pm this evening, there are 5/6 scheduled AA flights to Amsterdam and 3 to Brussels? This is according to FlightRadar anyway.

DaveReidUK 19th Apr 2019 08:25


Originally Posted by cloudey (Post 10451036)
Does anyone know why at 8pm this evening, there are 5/6 scheduled AA flights to Amsterdam and 3 to Brussels? This is according to FlightRadar anyway.

No idea. Only BA and KL/SN flights showing up on the Heathrow timetable.

What are the AA flight numbers ?

Rutan16 19th Apr 2019 08:56

Those are trucks !

Normally these are filtered OUT however at the moment there is a hiccup on FR24 . I have no doubt in a few days they will disappear again

There are anomaly’s like this with that site all the time. Ghost flights, and light aircraft landing at parallel airfields for instance Denham and Northolt often show up as landing at Heathrow in the UK .

RFS = Road freight service and one truck can carry several differing “flight numbers”







FFHKG 19th Apr 2019 10:18

That explains why there was an AA flight from MAD to VLC, which did not correspond with any Iberia code share, showing on FR24 last night. Seems the FR24 glitch is perhaps more wide-spread than just LHR

USERNAME_ 28th Apr 2019 13:50

Another big fire just outside of the airport yet again. Not causing problems with flights, lets hope it stays that way.

DaveReidUK 28th Apr 2019 15:27


Originally Posted by USERNAME_ (Post 10457983)
Not causing problems with flights, lets hope it stays that way.

Though GWR train services, and the HEX, have been disrupted.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7527a50868.jpg





Trinity 09L 30th Apr 2019 20:19

High Court publishes decision at 10am tomorrow on JR on government decision R3 AQ etc, usefully one day before local elections nearby.

Navpi 30th Apr 2019 21:52


Originally Posted by Trinity 09L (Post 10460013)
High Court publishes decision at 10am tomorrow on JR on government decision R3 AQ etc, usefully one day before local elections nearby.

..

..one day before local elections 😁
But sametime as an emergency climate change debate scheduled in Parliament tomorrow morning. Oops

Civil service timetable cock up alert...!

VentureGo 1st May 2019 10:46

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48118100

Heathrow campaigners lose challenge against third runway


    Trinity 09L 1st May 2019 14:15

    Under the current 14bn plan, construction could begin in 2021, with the third runway operational by 2026.
    Plus the 1bn for the Western rail link tunnel, upgrade of the Tube TfL cost, M25 cost ? etc etc etc

    compton3bravo 1st May 2019 18:39

    I think the important word here is COULD but me personally I won't hold my breath!

    Navpi 11th May 2019 07:05

    Government backtracking re Heathrow expansion ?

    Would be a ready made excuse !

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48233548

    Navpi 11th May 2019 23:02


    Originally Posted by Navpi (Post 10468708)
    Government backtracking re Heathrow expansion ?

    Would be a ready made excuse !

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48233548

    And as if by magic a subtle "insertion" now appears in government thinking with of course some backtracking through unamed sources as the climate change agenda suddenly turns all our MPs into tree huggers.

    Having said that the way "2 pints Nigel" is going there might not be any Tory or Labour MPs left to actually make the decision!

    https://amp.theguardian.com/environm...mpression=true​​​​​​











    DaveReidUK 30th May 2019 15:30

    Latest Fly Quiet & Green results
     
    Heathrow is about to publish its Fly Quiet & Green results for the first quarter of 2019 - they have been up on the website for the last 3 weeks, but so far protected from public scrutiny (why?) by the usual secret password.

    After the embarrassment of last quarter's results, which had to be clandestinely altered (and, even after that, were nonsense), it remains to be seen whether Heathrow can get over the first hurdle - keeping track of the number of flights that land and take off on its runways in order to identify the 50 busiest airlines.

    In an attempt (probably in vain) to help LHR with at least that part of the number-crunching, I did take the liberty of sending a list of the relevant airlines, but received no acknowledgement. For the record, in Q1 2019 they were (in descending order of frequency):

    BA/SH, BA/LH, VS, EI, LH, AA, SK, UA, EW, LX, KL, AC, DL, IB, AF, BE, EK, QR, AZ, TP, CX, SU, SQ, AI, 9W, AY/SH, EY, TK/LH, OS, LO, SN, A3, CA, BC, TK/SH, VY, GF, JL, MH, QF, TG, WY, KM, SV, LY, CZ, ME/SH, KU, PK, FI/SH

    It remains to be seen how many of the 50 appear in the results, once the public is finally permitted to see them.


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