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Sioltach Dubh Glas 18th Oct 2020 18:23

The latest I heard was for T2 to reopen in February.

chinapattern 18th Oct 2020 19:23


Originally Posted by The96er (Post 10906891)
Yes, I should have specified T2 to re-open with T3 remaining open and T1 to close for maintenance. EI was supposed to have moved to T3 with the start of the BHD route, but for some reson, didn't happen, so I guess the situation is still fluid at the moment.

They should close T1 and knock it down!!!

Flying Hi 18th Oct 2020 19:28


Originally Posted by chinapattern (Post 10906973)
They should close T1 and knock it down!!!

Why? Sounds a tad peevish to me.

MANFAN 18th Oct 2020 19:40


Originally Posted by The96er (Post 10906891)
Yes, I should have specified T2 to re-open with T3 remaining open and T1 to close for maintenance. EI was supposed to have moved to T3 with the start of the BHD route, but for some reson, didn't happen, so I guess the situation is still fluid at the moment.

Are you able to elude on the T1 maintenance?

MANFAN 18th Oct 2020 19:42


Originally Posted by chinapattern (Post 10906973)
They should close T1 and knock it down!!!

Can we keep the multi storey car park I canít imagine level 13 not being there, that new car park in T2X just isnít the same...

LFC22 18th Oct 2020 19:59

The sooner new T2 opens the better. T1 and T3 are old and desperately in need of a complete overhaul

chinapattern 18th Oct 2020 20:55


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10906975)
Why? Sounds a tad peevish to me.

Because itís old, dated and perhaps one of the most miserable terminal experiences in the U.K. The sight of an A380 bridge stuck onto the end of a pier originally designed for the likes of Tridents and BAC 111s speaks volumes!

Mr A Tis 18th Oct 2020 21:40


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10906866)
But that group will all go on cheap fares with EK or transit via PIA/AI perhaps BA but not a minimally advertised new start route with VS unless offering loss making fares.

Covid restrictions will be with us for some time to come. Transit stops can add extra complications that can change at a moments notice. Point to point will become more attractive even if it comes at a premium.

OzzyOzBorn 18th Oct 2020 23:54


But that group will all go on cheap fares with EK or transit via PIA/AI perhaps BA but not a minimally advertised new start route with VS unless offering loss making fares.
You presume that group to be a single homogenous mass who will default to similar travel choices en bloc. The reality is that we're referring to a very large pool of individual family groups which will each make the decision which best suits themselves. Provided that Virgin offers tariffs pitched to compete effectively with the alternatives on offer, there is no reason to presume they can't prosper. If their price point is pitched too high to attract customers, they will lose out. But Virgin executives have plenty of experience in competitive markets and they know the score. They are aware of the criteria required to succeed, and their introductory fares look fine to me.

DP. 28th Oct 2020 13:37


Originally Posted by MANFAN (Post 10906334)
With T2X already complete and ready to be tested prior to official opening, is there any word from MAG/MAN management about testing the terminal with passengers?
There were rumours during the summer that it would be opening in March with testing to take place during Jan & Feb, but it's gone quiet lately. There would be more space to social distance within T2X compared to the current T1 & T3.

Appreciate any info...

They'll need to do trials with staff first, which I'd imagine has been/is going to be an issue, given a) the current Covid restrictions, and b) the number of staff who have been furloughed and made redundant.

ManchesterUK 31st Oct 2020 00:32

Hello, hope you donít mind me raising a question Iíve been thinking about during the past few months. Given COVID, Manchester has obviously seen a dramatic fall in activity, so much so that itís second runway is now no longer used.

Do you think thereís a certain tipping point when activity increases to such a level that the airport will reopen the second runway? I ask this as if thereís a vaccine next year (fingers crossed), airport activity will start to rev back up - but the subsequent economic toll of the pandemic may mean activity is way behind pre covid levels, meaning 23L still isnít needed. Iíd just be interested to hear what othersí thoughts are on when that tipping point may be.

chaps1954 31st Oct 2020 09:14

It won`t be a rev back but I think things will get worse before better and it will be a slow crawl for at least a year and it all depends on other countries as well.The vaccine if it comes will be targeted at first on vital staff and vunerable people, personally ask that question again in May next year.

Rutan16 31st Oct 2020 09:35


Originally Posted by chinapattern (Post 10907026)
Because itís old, dated and perhaps one of the most miserable terminal experiences in the U.K. The sight of an A380 bridge stuck onto the end of a pier originally designed for the likes of Tridents and BAC 111s speaks volumes!

Pier B was designed to accommodate 707/DC8 and VC10 size aircraft in boxes with side on parking , Pier C added 4 wide body capable stands in 1973 and with dual air bridges !
Stand 11 has a long history of accommodating oddballs including Concorde/IL62/DC8series 61/63/747/Tristar and DC10

Rutan16 31st Oct 2020 09:55


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10906866)
But that group will all go on cheap fares with EK or transit via PIA/AI perhaps BA but not a minimally advertised new start route with VS unless offering loss making fares.

Right now India doesnít allow an intermediate stop in the Gulf or anywhere else for that matter. Hugely denting revenues for the Me3 plus one

Combined with Omaniís own entry restrictions little wonder why Omanís operations remain indefinitely suspended is it

This is the impetus for the Indian carrier uplift being experienced by Vistara and others including the Virgin services though even now there remains considerable difficulty in British Indians gaining the right to travel .

Quoting FCO
Travel to India is subject to entry restrictions
A limited number of flights are operating between the UK and India under a bilateral agreement but these are subject to strict eligibility criteria and details may change at short notice. You should check the relevant airline website for up to date information.
If you are eligible to travel to India you will need to quarantine after arrival.

Indeed the FCO web page actually still reports scheduled international flights remain suspended and that those operating are essentially scheduled charters !

FROM GOI site
its even more bureaucratic

Ill just post a link

https://boi.gov.in/content/advisory-...ted-covid-19-1



Rutan16 31st Oct 2020 10:17


Originally Posted by ManchesterUK (Post 10915453)
Hello, hope you don’t mind me raising a question I’ve been thinking about during the past few months. Given COVID, Manchester has obviously seen a dramatic fall in activity, so much so that it’s second runway is now no longer used.

Do you think there’s a certain tipping point when activity increases to such a level that the airport will reopen the second runway? I ask this as if there’s a vaccine next year (fingers crossed), airport activity will start to rev back up - but the subsequent economic toll of the pandemic may mean activity is way behind pre covid levels, meaning 23L still isn’t needed. I’d just be interested to hear what others’ thoughts are on when that tipping point may be.

IMHO it will be at least 2-3 years before 20+ million is achieved again - the south runway may yet see some use in the meantime if only for maintenance backup; however other issues are fire cover and certainly a period navaid retesting.

ManchesterUK 2nd Nov 2020 21:35

Thanks Rutan and Chaps - appreciate it.

roverman 7th Nov 2020 09:28

A good rumour........just wondering why if the Irish part of IAG can do this then why can't the British part? Perhaps to do with EU ownership, the article suggests.

https://simpleflying.com/aer-lingus-...uk-us-flights/

zfw 7th Nov 2020 10:57

Back down to T1 again from wednesday, traffic has really slowed down with the latest restrictions. Although there seems to be an awful lot of "business people" travelling to ISB and LHE which made the majority of passengers travelling on EK, EY, QR, and the Hifly.

TURIN 9th Nov 2020 15:10


Originally Posted by roverman (Post 10920909)
A good rumour........just wondering why if the Irish part of IAG can do this then why can't the British part? Perhaps to do with EU ownership, the article suggests.

https://simpleflying.com/aer-lingus-...uk-us-flights/


This was reported some weeks ago here.
Sadly Brexit may scupper it.

pwalhx 9th Nov 2020 18:35


Originally Posted by TURIN (Post 10922604)
This was reported some weeks ago here.
Sadly Brexit may scupper it.

I'm puzzled why this may be the case, its hardly a recent development and they will have taken it into account when discussing the idea surely?


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