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euromanxdude 2nd May 2020 15:30


Originally Posted by planedrive (Post 10770544)
easyJet launching MAN-ABZ daily from 31st August.

comes up as world connections? So that in partnership with loganair?

GrahamK 2nd May 2020 15:43


Originally Posted by euromanxdude (Post 10770565)
comes up as world connections? So that in partnership with loganair?

Nope, definitely easyJet operating. Not on sale yet

euromanxdude 2nd May 2020 15:49


Originally Posted by GrahamK (Post 10770579)
Nope, definitely easyJet operating. Not on sale yet

ahh gotcha. Know what frequency will be?

pwalhx 2nd May 2020 16:42

Daily as per attached link
https://airportrumours.********.com/...-aberdeen.html
Starting August 31st, Easyjet will start a daily Manchester to Aberdeen Service.

U2311 MAN 0720 ABZ 0840 Mon, Tue, Fri, Sat.
U2311 MAN 1505 ABZ 1625 Wed, Thu
U2311 MAN 1840 ABZ 2000 Sun

U2312 ABZ 0910 MAN 1025 Mon, Tue, Fri, Sat
U2312 ABZ 1655 MAN 1810 Wed, Thu
U2313 ABZ 2030 MAN 2145 Sun

A319/320 used.

SWBKCB 3rd May 2020 15:01


The measures, says Charlie Cornish, Group CEO of Manchester Airports Group, have been drawn up following consultation with medical experts and in the absence of official guidance from the government...
...With airport leaders now understood to be frustrated with the waiting, they have taken the steps ahead of further international guidelines they expect to be introduced in the coming weeks.

Airport bosses say the full details are still being hammered out, but the changes, to be launched this week, mean:
  • All airport staff will wear gloves and face masks
  • All passengers will be required to wear gloves and face coverings. Travellers are expected to bring their own and they can include scarves or other makeshift measures. The airport will provide protective equipment for those without. As passenger numbers rise they will be expected to provide their own.
  • Trialling some technologies such as temperature measurement

MEN - Passengers and staff at Manchester Airport will have to wear gloves and cover faces

The96er 3rd May 2020 15:13

"Passengers could also be asked to make a 'health declaration' to confirm they are asymptomatic before entering the terminal" - How are you supposed to know if you're asymptomatic ??.

HKGBOY 3rd May 2020 15:40

Bit of a change of tack from MAG then being pro-active. I travelled through MAN several times in March and queried the evident lack of any hand sanitiser stations anywhere in the airport for passengers, even sending them pics of the vast sanitiser stations all around HKG Airport. Their reply was they didn't have to provide as it wasn't in PHE guidelines to do so.

BluffOldSeaDog 3rd May 2020 16:30


Originally Posted by The96er (Post 10771374)
"Passengers could also be asked to make a 'health declaration' to confirm they are asymptomatic before entering the terminal" - How are you supposed to know if you're asymptomatic ??.

Doesn't it mean you're declaring you have no symptoms?

The96er 3rd May 2020 16:36


Originally Posted by BluffOldSeaDog (Post 10771424)
Doesn't it mean you're declaring you have no symptoms?

And that proves what exactly. - "Yes, I'd like the check-in please for my flight to New York and I'm infected with Covid" !! - Not a likely scenario, so what's the point in having a declaration.

ATNotts 4th May 2020 08:19


Originally Posted by The96er (Post 10771429)
And that proves what exactly. - "Yes, I'd like the check-in please for my flight to New York and I'm infected with Covid" !! - Not a likely scenario, so what's the point in having a declaration.

About as likely as a terrorist declaring at check-in that they were carrying something for someone else, or didn't pack their own bag!!

BluffOldSeaDog 4th May 2020 09:56

Exactly, more theatre

Mr Mac 4th May 2020 10:45

ATNotts
I am still flying backwards and forwards to Germany on a reasonably regular basis (not as often as before) so staying longer either in UK or Germany. I have a resident permit for Germany which has allowed me to do this. The routing has been difficult, and I have used masks and gloves where required but all the terminals are extremely quiet be it London , Dublin, Copenhagen all of which I have used as there were no direct flights from Manchester. It will be interesting to see how things open up here, as they have started to do in Germany. With regards to testing I had that done last week in Manchester and was Covid free on Friday at least. Interesting experience and I understand why it takes so long as forms and to a degree diagrams are misleading. Indeed the forms have had a hand written on section Step 3B where Biohazard bag has been crossed out and sandwich bag written in and then another hand written note says to place this in the Bio bag. I hope they don,t get writer,s cramp, as doing that 100,000 per day is some set of lines ! You would have thought somebody would have vetted this before they printed it as the diagram for placing the sample in the test tube is also a little misleading. The culmination of this all occurs when you park up to do your samples and place them in the bags as instructed. If you have an issue you are to put the hazard warning lights on in your car and somebody will come over to help by either phone or sign , anyway it looked like Blackpool illuminations when I was there with so many hazards on !! We will have to see what Boris has to say later this week as to how the UK is going to come out of lock down.
Cheers
Mr Mac

ATNotts 4th May 2020 11:11

Mr Mac
I keep reading that various European carriers are starting, or plan to restart services between UK airports and France and Germany, but since as you have pointed out the criteria for being able to travel are quite strict it kind of begs the question what is the point. Flights are going to be largely empty, and yields abysmal. As and when countries begin to loosen the rules, allowing non-essential business travel then it might make some sense, but from what I read on ARD teletext this morning, although there are glimmers of movement in the rules from some countries, mostly in eastern Europe there appears to be no real willingness by France or Germany to row back on cross border traffic at the moment, and the Germans really seem to have ruled that out until early June.

chaps1954 4th May 2020 11:23

Eurowings have restarted MAN to DUS 3 weekly at present and Air France restart Paris as of Thursday


Mr A Tis 4th May 2020 11:45

I can't see any prospect of normality this year. Apart from entry restrictions, there will be reduced disposable incomes, and also travel insurance issues for the elderly or medically compromised. The low cost model of pack 'em in herded at gates, pack 'em in on board and 25 minute turn arounds are surely a dead duck for the immediate future.
Even when flights restart, the demand is going to be unbelievably weak.
I can see easy, Ryanair & Jet2 operating some services from MAN but I don't think there is much hope for the likes of LPL & LBA. It wouldn't make sense for weak operations to be split over 3 nearby airports.
Long haul from MAN, aside from Middle East connections I can't see being viable- especially given the financial state of Virgin Atlantic.
Where this leaves the MAN TP project I don't know.
Aside from the shake out of airlines, surely the same applies to Airports ? I can see weak ops out of LGW,LHR, STN, BHX, MAN, EDI or GLA with freight at STN & EMA. How can the rest survive on one or two flights a day? Other than as parking places ?
Is this too pessimistic a view? I know we have to hope for the best & plan for the worst.
How many flights have LPL & LBA handled recently ? I may be wrong but even MAN only has roughly 5-6 regular flights a day in & 5-6 out. (KL,QR,PIA,BA,LM, RYR),
If the UK gets Corvid under control. Grant Shapps has said he is considering quarantine restrictions on inbounds & the fact he has also said he wouldn't book a holiday this summer- kind of nails the summer season.

Mr Mac 4th May 2020 11:52

Chaps1954
That,s good to hear re Eurowings from Dusseldorf, but it would probably still be easier too use the other routes I mentioned from Munich, although journey times have been up to 9 hrs on some days and routes. I must say Shamrock have done a really good job, and SAS to keep their routes going. It would be really good if I could find a hairdresser which is a. open b. not with a massive waiting list in one of these terminals but not yet found one, and my PA inform me that when they open up in Germany it might be July before I could get my hair cut !! At this rate I may have to go for the tender ministrations of Mrs Mac, we will see what Boris has to say this week.

AT Notts
You are correct in that I can not say the flights are anywhere near full and I would presume there maybe some form of subsidisation maybe as I can honestly say I have been on a Gulfstream with more passengers than on many of these flights over the last 6 weeks. Social distancing is not an issue believe me when onboard but I will be very happy to see full cabins again, hopefully sooner rather than later.
Cheers
Mr Mac

back to Boeing 4th May 2020 14:59

Mr Mac,

PM sent.

Mr Mac 4th May 2020 15:21

Back to Boeing
Sent you a response back. I was just starting a video conference call so if there was anything else you need I will get back to you if you let me know. Basically be prepared for very quiet terminals and planes with little queuing and rudimentary service on board, though given what their industry is going through, and their career worries they have all done really well on all the carriers I have flown, and these are not my normal carriers. Take gloves and mask. As I have an apartment in Munich I usually just have laptop and paperwork, which I take onboard, so travel very light. Not much else I can really say, but let me know how you find KLM and Amsterdam. Hopefully Lufthansa will start MAN flights soon, so will not have to do Wells Fargo trip around Europe. Travel safe.
Kind regards
Mr Mac

BACsuperVC10 5th May 2020 11:59


Originally Posted by Mr A Tis (Post 10772133)
I can't see any prospect of normality this year. Apart from entry restrictions, there will be reduced disposable incomes, and also travel insurance issues for the elderly or medically compromised. The low cost model of pack 'em in herded at gates, pack 'em in on board and 25 minute turn arounds are surely a dead duck for the immediate future.
Even when flights restart, the demand is going to be unbelievably weak.
I can see easy, Ryanair & Jet2 operating some services from MAN but I don't think there is much hope for the likes of LPL & LBA. It wouldn't make sense for weak operations to be split over 3 nearby airports.
Long haul from MAN, aside from Middle East connections I can't see being viable- especially given the financial state of Virgin Atlantic.
Where this leaves the MAN TP project I don't know.
Aside from the shake out of airlines, surely the same applies to Airports ? I can see weak ops out of LGW,LHR, STN, BHX, MAN, EDI or GLA with freight at STN & EMA. How can the rest survive on one or two flights a day? Other than as parking places ?
Is this too pessimistic a view? I know we have to hope for the best & plan for the worst.
How many flights have LPL & LBA handled recently ? I may be wrong but even MAN only has roughly 5-6 regular flights a day in & 5-6 out. (KL,QR,PIA,BA,LM, RYR),
If the UK gets Corvid under control. Grant Shapps has said he is considering quarantine restrictions on inbounds & the fact he has also said he wouldn't book a holiday this summer- kind of nails the summer season.

Liverpool has been 2 flights a day to IOM with flights to Norway on Friday, Sunday and Monday generally. Wizz Air flights due to begin next week apparently.

RoyHudd 5th May 2020 12:02

What are MAG group doing about the big building projects? I personally hope that they are completed in time for an upsurge in passenger traffic.


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