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TURIN 31st Mar 2020 09:34


Originally Posted by zfw (Post 10733721)
From April 1st, operating hours 0600-1600 from T1, airfield to remain open.

zfw

Well here we are on April fools day and there's no sign of that. BA have a flight at 2010.

highwideandugly 31st Mar 2020 09:37

Have the clocks gone forward again?

Flying Hi 31st Mar 2020 10:04

"31 days hath March"

zfw 31st Mar 2020 10:33


Originally Posted by TURIN (Post 10734298)
Well here we are on April fools day and there's no sign of that. BA have a flight at 2010.

Airport Operating Hours



Charlie mentioned that demand had dramatically decreased at all of our airports, with the exception of East Midlands where its cargo operation is busier than normal. Over the weekend, Manchester saw a total of 57 arrivals and departures and 2,763 guests. To put that into context, normally at this time of year we would be seeing 35,000 guests per day.



Further to this, today easyJet and Ethiopia Airlines announced they would be grounding flights and Ryanair has reduced its operations even further.



In line with this limited demand, with effect from Wednesday 1 April, our operational hours for Terminal 1 will be 06:00-16:00. We will however maintain 24/7 airfield operational capability.

Scottie Dog 31st Mar 2020 10:46

I understood that it was to be:

MAN will remain 24/7 but terminals arrs 0600-1600 and deps 0800-1600 from Weds 01Apr, initially to 30Apr, But at present no OAN has been issued.

The96er 31st Mar 2020 11:48

Latest NOTAM for MAN:A1264/20 NOTAMN

Q)EGTT/QFALT/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5321N00217W005

A) EGCC

B) 2004010500 C) 2005010500

E) COVID 19 INFORMATION:

AD CLSD TO SCHEDULED INBOUND FLIGHTS BTN 0500-1500 DAILY AND SCHEDULED DEPARTING FLIGHTS BTN 0700-1500 DAILY. THIS RESTRICTION DOES NOT AFFECT THE FOLLOWING FLIGHTS:

1. ACFT IN STATE OF EMERGENCY

2. CARGO FLIGHTS

3. TECHNICAL LANDING

4. SPECIAL FLIGHTS/REPATRIATION/HUMANITARIAN 5. PRIVATE FLIGHTS EXCEPT ACFT IN EMERGENCY THE EXEMPTED FLIGHTS ARE TO SEEK PRE-AUTHORISATION (PPR) FROM THE AD OPERATOR TEL +44 (0)161 489 3331. AIR OPERATORS ARE ABLE TO FILE EGCC AS AN ALTERNATE AERODROME.

AIR OPERATORS MUST ENSURE GROUND HANDLING SUPPORT IS AVBL AT ALL TIMES. RFFS CAT10 H24.



Scottie Dog 31st Mar 2020 11:53

That reads rather oddly - closed between those times? Previous advise seemed to give open between.

Let's see if there's an update?

Scottie Dog 31st Mar 2020 18:38

Update now issued:
Q) EGTT/QFALT/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5321N00217W005
B) FROM: 20/04/01 05:00C) TO: 20/05/01 05:00E) COVID 19 INFORMATION: MANCHESTER WILL ONLY BE OPERATIONAL FOR
SCHEDULED INBOUND FLIGHTS BTN 0500-1500 DAILY AND SCHEDULED
DEPARTING FLIGHTS BTN 0700-1500 DAILY. THIS RESTRICTION DOES NOT
AFFECT THE FOLLOWING FLIGHTS:
1. ACFT IN STATE OF EMERGENCY
2. CARGO FLIGHTS
3. TECHNICAL LANDING
4. SPECIAL FLIGHTS/REPATRIATION/HUMANITARIAN 5. PRIVATE FLIGHTS
5. PRIVATE FLIGHTS
EXCEPT ACFT IN EMERGENCY THE EXEMPTED FLIGHTS ARE TO SEEK
PRE-AUTHORISATION (PPR) FROM THE AD OPERATOR TEL +44 (0)161 489
3331. AIR OPERATORS ARE ABLE TO FILE EGCC AS AN ALTERNATE AERODROME.
AIR OPERATORS MUST ENSURE GROUND HANDLING SUPPORT IS AVBL AT ALL
TIMES. RFFS CAT10 H24.

Adola69 31st Mar 2020 22:16

Well here we are in a crisis but in a boom time for Airfreight it would seem. You'd expect that Man with it's Worldwide reputation as being Britains Number 3 airport, to be participating in this bonanza and a least generating some revenue and employment for it's beleagured workforce and the agencies on the airport. So let's see, what has been the result so far?

Absolutely ZERO. What a fantastic result No.3 ! :ugh:

We are always hearing that we don't get freight traffic because we have so much underbelly capacity. Well, now we have zero, so where is all the freight going ?

Oh yes, we don't have the handling capacity anymore as we have no Hi-Lo's available at this International Giant jet port!

What a shamefull reflection it is on it's ability to get freight quickly to areas of the North West of England, especially if it's of the Medical variety. It is doing the NW a great dis-service by the apparent inability to attract or un-willingness
to have adecent freight operation. Oh yes, lets pack out the MAG groups other facilities at EMA and Standstill and then we can let the stuff be trucked up to the NW.

All the eggs have been placed in one basket ( Pax) and the bottom has fallen out of that Carrier bag and will take a long long time to recover, IF IT EVER DOES ?


May as well demolish the Freight sheds at Man and turn them into a car Park ready for the return of Passengers which is their Meat and two Veg, meanwhile rent some cheap wharehousing in Trafford Park for the freight operation.

I'm dumbfounded by the lack of any initiative being shown at present. Are the management working from home on their Sinclair ZX Spectrums? T'wud appear so !

Adola.

irishlad06 1st Apr 2020 04:12


Originally Posted by Adola69 (Post 10735040)
Well here we are in a crisis but in a boom time for Airfreight it would seem. You'd expect that Man with it's Worldwide reputation as being Britains Number 3 airport, to be participating in this bonanza and a least generating some revenue and employment for it's beleagured workforce and the agencies on the airport. So let's see, what has been the result so far?

Absolutely ZERO. What a fantastic result No.3 ! :ugh:

We are always hearing that we don't get freight traffic because we have so much underbelly capacity. Well, now we have zero, so where is all the freight going ?

Oh yes, we don't have the handling capacity anymore as we have no Hi-Lo's available at this International Giant jet port!

What a shamefull reflection it is on it's ability to get freight quickly to areas of the North West of England, especially if it's of the Medical variety. It is doing the NW a great dis-service by the apparent inability to attract or un-willingness
to have adecent freight operation. Oh yes, lets pack out the MAG groups other facilities at EMA and Standstill and then we can let the stuff be trucked up to the NW.

All the eggs have been placed in one basket ( Pax) and the bottom has fallen out of that Carrier bag and will take a long long time to recover, IF IT EVER DOES ?


May as well demolish the Freight sheds at Man and turn them into a car Park ready for the return of Passengers which is their Meat and two Veg, meanwhile rent some cheap wharehousing in Trafford Park for the freight operation.

I'm dumbfounded by the lack of any initiative being shown at present. Are the management working from home on their Sinclair ZX Spectrums? T'wud appear so !

Adola.

There has been extra freight flights - all be it only a couple but Fed Ex have some nights had two B757ís in as well as the ATR. None of the other carriers have set up handling contracts or anything at MAN so it wouldnít be just as easy as it sounds. Then you have the parking stand issue. There is very little space for an aircraft to sit on the ground not flying all day as none of the other airlines are flying either. There are still TCX A330ís taking up space as well as multiple BE aircraft. Aircraft are being stored in fairies apron as there isnít the space.

SWBKCB 1st Apr 2020 06:08


I'm dumbfounded by the lack of any initiative being shown at present. Are the management working from home on their Sinclair ZX Spectrums? T'wud appear so !
With a fully equipped cargo orientated airport just down the road at EMA, and another significant cargo hub in STN, I'm sure the groups resources are being fully exploited. That's the modern way!

sjacko20 1st Apr 2020 07:54


Originally Posted by Adola69 (Post 10735040)
Well here we are in a crisis but in a boom time for Airfreight it would seem. You'd expect that Man with it's Worldwide reputation as being Britains Number 3 airport, to be participating in this bonanza and a least generating some revenue and employment for it's beleagured workforce and the agencies on the airport. So let's see, what has been the result so far?

Absolutely ZERO. What a fantastic result No.3 ! :ugh:

We are always hearing that we don't get freight traffic because we have so much underbelly capacity. Well, now we have zero, so where is all the freight going ?

Oh yes, we don't have the handling capacity anymore as we have no Hi-Lo's available at this International Giant jet port!

What a shamefull reflection it is on it's ability to get freight quickly to areas of the North West of England, especially if it's of the Medical variety. It is doing the NW a great dis-service by the apparent inability to attract or un-willingness
to have adecent freight operation. Oh yes, lets pack out the MAG groups other facilities at EMA and Standstill and then we can let the stuff be trucked up to the NW.

All the eggs have been placed in one basket ( Pax) and the bottom has fallen out of that Carrier bag and will take a long long time to recover, IF IT EVER DOES ?


May as well demolish the Freight sheds at Man and turn them into a car Park ready for the return of Passengers which is their Meat and two Veg, meanwhile rent some cheap wharehousing in Trafford Park for the freight operation.

I'm dumbfounded by the lack of any initiative being shown at present. Are the management working from home on their Sinclair ZX Spectrums? T'wud appear so !

Adola.

The NOTAM says the restrictions do not affect Cargo flights.

LBIA 1st Apr 2020 08:41

Not everything is going to EMA, ​​as DSA seems to be handling freight very well still.

SWBKCB 1st Apr 2020 08:50


Originally Posted by LBIA (Post 10735400)
Not everything is going to EMA, ​​as DSA seems to be handling freight very well still.

Yes - but the discussion here is about the MAG group of airports.

TURIN 1st Apr 2020 09:04


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 10734302)
Have the clocks gone forward again?

Please accept my apologies, I had a senior moment coupled with a brain fart!

Anyway,,,onwards.

Staff South is now completly closed to ALL staff. It is being prepared for use as a Covid19 test facility. Or so i'm told.

commit aviation 1st Apr 2020 13:08

https://mediacentre.eastmidlandsairp...edented-times/

MAG is a group and this is EMA's opportunity to shine. If EMA has the capability to do freight more cost effectively than MAN then why should that be a bad thing? In the long run I would suggest that anything which benefits the group, benefits MAN in the long run.

In "normal" times (who remembers those??) you wouldn't expect Virgin to start operating longhaul flights from EMA to somewhere like the west coast of America. That's what MAN can do well as it has the catchment area to support these longhaul routes.
There is a paragraph near the end which says " Positioned only a four-hour truck drive to 90% of the population of England and Wales, EMA’s central location means vital supplies flown into the UK can be with those who need them most urgently very soon after landing, wherever they are in the country."
I don't work there but in my view EMA are set up to do this, appear to be doing a decent job of it and will benefit the whole group.

750XL 1st Apr 2020 13:43


employment for it's beleagured workforce and the agencies on the airport
The majority of staff at MAN have been laid off or furloughed, there's no staff left to handle flights even if MAG wanted to.

Additionally, there's no parking space for anything.

Suzeman 1st Apr 2020 19:56


May as well demolish the Freight sheds at Man
Of course, a large proportion of freight passing through the sheds in normal times is trucked in and out and never sees the inside of an aircraft at MAN. It gets consolidated and taken down south. There were even trucks going to near European airports some years ago - don't know whether that happens now?

TURIN 2nd Apr 2020 01:38


Originally Posted by 750XL (Post 10735707)
The majority of staff at MAN have been laid off or furloughed, there's no staff left to handle flights even if MAG wanted to.

Additionally, there's no parking space for anything.

Not strictly accurate.
There is about ten free narrow body stands on T2 and another couple on T3.
Quite a few engineers and such still about.

pwalhx 2nd Apr 2020 08:15

A fair amount of freight does leave Manchester in the belly of passenger aircraft (although not currently of course), you are right thought about consolidation of cargo down south.

There are trailer links to European airportd still, am currntly expecting a shipment from South Africa due on a KLM truck from Amsterdam.


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