Only the most seasoned traveller will be aware of pre clearance at DUB, I suspect most pax book based on price.

Its clearly not that much of a pull for the many 000s who connect at Manchester for Orlando flights rather than use
DUB as point of departure for direct flights OR use a connection via a US airport. Price / Capacity is everything.

I don't think you or anyone should be criticised for introducing a degree of realism into how they view the situation.

TCX operated over 40 weekly long haul departures to the USA, Mexico and the Caribbean with up to 7 based aircraft. It's disappointing that SFO and SEA will not appear on MAN's boards this summer. While VS and TUI have announced a few added flights for this summer, they only make a very modest inroad into the TCX seats lost. It's fair to say that some of us are slightly underwhelmed by Virgin's reaction to the TCX situation while understanding that aircraft availability and requirements at LHR and LGW were relevant factors.

Going East, the new services by Biman and Juneyao are of course welcome and I'm still hoping we'll see Thai in my lifetime even as a mature pensioner!

The recovery and backfill on short haul is good news for which MAN have done well, but again the risk of consolidation is a perfectly valid point to make when for example Jet 2 have 4 daily departures to Palma I believe in peak summer, apart from flights by other carriers.

If 2020 turns out to be flat in terms of passenger numbers, it won't in my view be a bad achievement. If it finishes in positive territory, I will be well pleased.

I have a horrible feeling that Juneo, Hainan, Cathy etc will be having a sabbatical for a while.

Anyone know where I could find the BACF schedule from MAN for S20 ?

Ryanair to add Copenhagen (daily), Kerry (twice weekly) and Paris Beauvais (4 times weekly) from end of March
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...020/?market=en

Who's Cathy :rolleyes:​​​​​​?
Flights are full inbound at the moment on CX.

Didn't she go home?

Below is the S20 schedule currently available to book on BA website. Weekly DUB will not continue for S20. Further changes are likely

Alicante

BA7321 MAN 06:09 ALC 09:45 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)
BA7322 ALC 10:35 MAN 12:30 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)

Florence

BA7331 MAN 14:40 FLR 18:15 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)
BA7332 FLR 19:00 MAN 20:35 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)

Ibiza

BA7313 MAN 14:45 IBZ 18:35 7 (17MAY20-27SEP20)
BA7314 IBZ 10:45 MAN 12:30 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)

London City

BA7311 MAN 11:40 LCY 12:40 7 (17MAY20-27SEP20)
BA7333 MAN 13:15 LCY 14:15 7 (17MAY20-27SEP20)

BA7310 LCY 20:00 MAN 21:00 5 (15MAY20-25SEP20)
BA7312 LCY 21:25 MAN 22:20 5 (15MAY20-25SEP20)

Malaga

BA7315 MAN 06:50 AGP 10:50 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)
BA7317 MAN 14:00 AGP 18:00 7 (17MAY20-27SEP20)
BA7317 MAN 15:00 AGP 19:00 6 (17MAY20-27SEP20)

BA7316 AGP 11:35 MAN 13:40 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)
BA7318 AGP 19:45 MAN 21:50 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)

Mykonos

BA7319 MAN 13:50 JMK 20:00 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)
BA7320 JMK 21:00 MAN 23:15 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)

Nice

BA7323 MAN 06:40 NCE 10:00 7 (24MAY20-06SEP20)
BA7323 MAN 13:45 NCE 17:05 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)

BA7324 NCE 10:45 MAN 12:10 7 (24MAY20-06SEP20)
BA7324 NCE 17:50 MAN 19:15 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)

Palma

BA7325 MAN 06:00 PMI 09:45 7 (17MAY20-27SEP20)

BA7326 PMI 10:30 MAN 12:15 7 (17MAY20-27SEP20)
BA7326 PMI 11:45 MAN 13:30 6 (16MAY20-26SEP20)

Does anyone know what might happen to the TCX hangar? Looks like someone is still paying to keep the lights on... I did hear that there was an aircraft in there that was halfway through a check but could be a rumour ofc... Presumably, MAN will want those mothballed A330s gone before the summer starts up.

The administrators are currently in charge of the TCX hangar, tho it's mostly been emptied of all equipment which has been sold on. There's still an A330 in there, OY-VK* I believe.

Preparations have started for the others on A330, I believe they were all cleaned the other day

OY-VKH. The story goes that it would cost too much to hire in engineers to get it airworthy - it was mid maintenance. To be parted out I understand.

Hello, anyone working at MAN and or TUI, Please can you confirm Aircraft type.

Mon 14th September TOM2146 (MAN-ACE).
Mon 21st September TOM2147 (ACE- MAN).

I know the situation with the MAX, Just need to know what’s down to operate it in the system atm.

thanks in advance.

That's 8 months away and over the boundary before S20 so I doubt anyone in TUI ops could give you a firm answer. Also what are you going to do if you get the reassurance you seek only to find a last minute change on the day?

Currently showing as a 767-300ER

Sources (https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...ns-latest-news) reporting that BA and Virgin Atlantic are, with immediate effect, ceasing flights to mainland China.

Obviously doesn't directly touch Manchester. However, with the FCO advice being 'all but essential travel' it may not be long before others follow suit (e.g. Hainan's Beijing service).

Thanks for the info, I’m flying Jet2 as always, My friends are flying out for the final week with TUI, already book, and are worried about the Max, so at least they will be happy with the current aircraft.

Hainan apparently suspending MAN-PEK for approx 7 weeks

Not surprising as most airlines appear to be cancelling services to mainland China until the end of March.

Chaps, 70 in fleet and 18M pax is entirely consistent with virtually unknown in China.

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