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Flightlevel001 24th Jul 2018 10:24

I'm praying they end up replacing their old equipment with these new scanners: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44925635

Perhaps then we might get a break from the aggressive yelling "Coat's/jackets off, belts off, laptops out, iPads out, shoes off, liquids/gels out, everything out of your pockets!" Before you get to the trays, so it's kicked barefooted along the floor whilst trying to hold up your trousers. Then when you get to the trays, each person needs about 4 or 5 because they insist on nearly every item going in it's individual one, increasing the chance of at least one of them being pulled to one side for extra screening (and more time having to wait in that awful environment).

All of the above is what's causing the queues, especially if you add bewildered non-frequent fliers into the mix or those with young kids in tow. I use the pre-check lane in the USA and people breeze through it. Fingers crossed, that's what these new machines are all about. Let's hope they get approved and make an appearance in the new terminal, I think they'll definitely help to create a less fraught and stressful environment for everyone.

LAX_LHR 24th Jul 2018 13:55

Looks like Cathay Pacific A350 B-LRB is going to be spending its 5th night at MAN tonight. Must be a pretty serious hydraulic leak. I think the PIA B77W is still here after 3 nights too. Will be it’s 4th night if it’s still here.

roverman 24th Jul 2018 17:27


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10204843)
Looks like Cathay Pacific A350 B-LRB is going to be spending its 5th night at MAN tonight. Must be a pretty serious hydraulic leak. I think the PIA B77W is still here after 3 nights too. Will be it’s 4th night if it’s still here.

PIA now departed, with pax. CX was showing a departure estimate of 1700 empty to HKG, just checked FR24 and looks like it's still AOG. There was also a KLM E190 parked out on the West Apron, another possible casualty?

spannersatcx 24th Jul 2018 17:37


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10204843)
Looks like Cathay Pacific A350 B-LRB is going to be spending its 5th night at MAN tonight. Must be a pretty serious hydraulic leak. I think the PIA B77W is still here after 3 nights too. Will be it’s 4th night if it’s still here.

CX departed.

RAS_2001 25th Jul 2018 06:00

Any idea when the third long haul airline will be announced,

LAX?

LAX_LHR 25th Jul 2018 08:06

It looks like it’s been postponed again, but 2 out of 3 aint bad.

shaping up to be a strong winter from MAN growth wise, so, can’t complain.

in other news, it looks like BA could be operating AGP/IBZ and PMI as a ‘BA Mainline’ flight next summer. Oneworld timetable currently showing these destinations as ‘British Airways operated by Titan Airways Limited’ similar to LGW. These flights have no correspondingly LCY sectors to which the MAN flights always start/end their weekend, so, looks to be either a W pattern with LGW or a MAN based aircraft (the latter could mean an all week base given it won’t be using an ‘otherwise idle’ Cityflyer machine).

RAS_2001 25th Jul 2018 09:56


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10205494)
It looks like it’s been postponed again, but 2 out of 3 aint bad.

shaping up to be a strong winter from MAN growth wise, so, can’t complain.

in other news, it looks like BA could be operating AGP/IBZ and PMI as a ‘BA Mainline’ flight next summer. Oneworld timetable currently showing these destinations as ‘British Airways operated by Titan Airways Limited’ similar to LGW. These flights have no correspondingly LCY sectors to which the MAN flights always start/end their weekend, so, looks to be either a W pattern with LGW or a MAN based aircraft (the latter could mean an all week base given it won’t be using an ‘otherwise idle’ Cityflyer machine).

I was still looking forward to the Thai to BKK announcement, what a shame. Anyway, at least we have to 2 brand new connections to very popular Asian destinations (BOM and ADD).

golf yankee one one 25th Jul 2018 13:16

Er, Addis Ababa always used to be in Africa!

The96er 25th Jul 2018 14:43


in other news, it looks like BA could be operating AGP/IBZ and PMI as a ‘BA Mainline’ flight next summer.
Titan are operating those 3 routes on behalf of Cityflyer on the 9th and 10th Aug only. There's nothing else planned.

FFMAN 25th Jul 2018 16:57


Originally Posted by RAS_2001 (Post 10205587)
I was still looking forward to the Thai to BKK announcement, what a shame. Anyway, at least we have to 2 brand new connections to very popular Asian destinations (BOM and ADD).

Hopefully they were put off by all the negative passenger experience reports on this site and others.
I hope it's the kick in the teeth that MAN management needs to wake it from its smug stupor. As a very frequent flyer, I'll say it again: 'Manchester Airport is one of the worst airports in Europe from a passenger perspective. Most airports in Asia are better and an increasing number of African airports are also better.'. Although to add a little balance, I will confirm that the last trip through T1 last week was fairly tolerable both outbound and return.
I suspect the dark hand of MAG at play though as I've just had a 'never again' report from some friends in London who have just tried Stansted for the first time. Their considered view was that LHR and LGW were much better so why spend extra time heading out to deepest East Anglia for a worse experience.
Don't shoot the messenger. It cannot be an accident can it that of the three worst airports in Britain: Manchester, Stansted and Luton, two of them are MAG's two biggest airports.

RAS_2001 25th Jul 2018 17:02


Originally Posted by golf yankee one one (Post 10205771)
Er, Addis Ababa always used to be in Africa!

IK it was a mistake )

RAS_2001 25th Jul 2018 17:16


Originally Posted by golf yankee one one (Post 10205771)
Er, Addis Ababa always used to be in Africa!

IK it was a mistake )

RAS_2001 25th Jul 2018 17:33

My personal expeirence at MAN has varied depending upon factors including the time of day, passenger density, and of course inevitably the airline. If you're travelling early morning, then you should have not rouble getting through security, whereas if you're travelling much later on, I'd imagine that you stand a much greater chance of subjecting yourself to quite a long and drawn out process.
The worst experience I've had was waiting to pass through MAN security with around 50-100 people queuing in front of me. Not to mention the fact that my flight was delayed by around 5 HOURS! As it turns out, it was a mechanical breakdown which grounded the aircraft at ALC, the aircraft was eventually replaced but by then some travellers had fallen asleep... Good job RYR ��

The best experience I had was 2 years ago, whereby I easily managed to slither through security in just under 5 mins. Additionally, the flight itself was on time which was a bonus.

Overall I believe that customer expeirence will vary with the factors that I have previously mentioned and more.

FFMAN 25th Jul 2018 17:39


Originally Posted by RAS_2001 (Post 10206009)
If you're travelling early morning, then you should have not rouble getting through security, whereas if you're travelling much later on, I'd imagine that you stand a much greater chance of subjecting yourself to quite a long and drawn out process.

Hmmm...your response betrays the fact that you probably don't travel through MAN very often. Actually the opposite is true.
If you are on one of the first wave of departures - expect a 'hell on earth' experience - any terminal. If you're traveling once this first wave has departed, you can expect something a little more tolerable - however still worse than any comparator airport in Europe.

Ivan aromer 25th Jul 2018 18:17


Originally Posted by FFMAN (Post 10206016)
Hmmm...your response betrays the fact that you probably don't travel through MAN very often. Actually the opposite is true.
If you are on one of the first wave of departures - expect a 'hell on earth' experience - any terminal. If you're traveling once this first wave has departed, you can expect something a little more tolerable - however still worse than any comparator airport in Europe.

My experience too. Fast track in name only!

RAS_2001 25th Jul 2018 18:27

I've flown in and out of Manchester many times, so 1 I do not need your judgment. Secondly, that's what I have experienced, so you can't just go ahead and make assumptions.

Mr A Tis 25th Jul 2018 23:08

6am T1 =90 minutes for security or 50 minutes fast track- that’s my experience.
have to face it yet again this Sunday at 8am.

Now airport of last resort.

ZOOKER 26th Jul 2018 14:51

That is astonishing, Council Van. Does the time depend on R/W in use or is it the same for both ends?

RAS_2001 26th Jul 2018 15:29


Originally Posted by ZOOKER (Post 10206802)
That is astonishing, Council Van. Does the time depend on R/W in use or is it the same for both ends?

Generally speaking, if one runway is being used whilst the other is closed, the volume of traffic tends to flow at a slower rate than if both runways were being used. That being said, to also depends on the frequency of aircraft movements and scheduled departure times.

Robin757 26th Jul 2018 15:42

Advice please. I am travelling with a small group on Wednesday 8th August to Zurich at (0845 with Swiss at least I think that is the time, I am not the group leader and time to be confirmed by her). One of our group is a very nervous traveller - can we expect very long queues at security or will things have got better especially midweek? They have been looking at the airport's departures and have already noted the couple of hours lateness this flight had today and yesterday (anybody know why?). Is there any help available for those who suffer from extreme anxiety and need help bypassing crowds and queues? (Apologies to those in the queue). They will be on diazepem for the journey!
To be honest I would not be surprised if John does not turn up for the journey but it would be a shame as he would probably never fly again. It would be nice to give him some assurance. Thank you


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