Unfortunately I`m pretty sure there is not too much to usefully discuss & use as comfort blanket for SEN or for that matter any airport & all of us even down to personal outlook are in deep trouble one way or another especially as we have a Government whose view is that UK business is Pret.(Yes that is a full stop)

Encouraged & bribed & even told to save Pret =(The Nation nowadays) the same imbibers are of course blamed for the totally expected & predicted COVID increase with causation now of further drastic measures to be applied which will be further reflected negatively within this industry.

Therefore will pass further on the idea thanks that there are plenty of things that can be usefully discussed concerning how difficult it will be to rebuild SEN`s passenger numbers.

The Government with airline/airport failure will duck many green issues but yielded up will be the brown sites to be inherited by Bovis et al for lots of £££ making & house building thereby solving another huge problem for them....No 1 Old Airport Drive anyone...situate on a nice corner plot))...Carvair Close...DHL Drive...

PS...Just a thought...has anyone checked if Stobart have registered a Homes Division))...Perhaps I will check this end for MAG Homes))...Ferrovial? OMG hang on they ARE builders!

[QUOTE= PS...STN uses it`s own Police drone for that))[/QUOTE]

Why do they need a police drone when they’ve got you!

Apologies. Unworthy. Withdrawn.


But but speaking of drones, Loganair arrived at SEN accompanied by the wail of bagpipes and marching men in skirts. “Just the start” we were told. EDI and others may well follow.

But it all went sour in no time at all. Stobart announced that GLA would be one of the new Flybe (Connect) routes and Loganair pulled out of that one a couple of days later.

Then it all just dribbled away. Wouldn’t it be nice sometimes to be a fly on the wall as conversations take place that determine these things.

It's seems to be a common perception on these threads that the dimiss of the airline industry will be a boon for house-builders. So nobody has got any money for travel but plenty to spend on new homes? Sometimes I just don't understand economics.... :confused:

A substantial part of the population has plenty of disposable income. Indeed even more than they had six months ago, because they haven't been able to spend it.. In the present circumstances they just don't want to spend it on travel.

Bit of a leap, though, from the current position to airports being closed. And if things get that bad, there will be plenty of other property looking to be re-purposed...

Commercial office space is likely to see a decline in use over the next few years - people might visit the office 3 days per week and work from home 2 days per week. That is likely to be much easier to convert into residential housing, and more appealing as somewhere to live compared to airports

Quote..."Sometimes I just don`t understand economics"...(funny face)

But surely that position appears to be the Government`s very own.

The position re housing for instance may appear oxymoronic but John Lewis for instance did not dream half their Flagship store would become flats as a market drastically changed.
It is called adaptation & evolution which happens more quickly with very sudden shift & change.

Why is it felt that only todays infrastructure & industries are inviolate...Slipways at Chatham & Portsmouth launching huge sailed battleships made from Good Ole English Oak anyone))...Plenty of aerodromes built over too since the dawn of commercial flight the world over & still it turns.

Last time I looked no airport in ENGLAND is owned by the Government they are owned by differing examples of enterprise & investment collectives that will have no return on their monies.Perhaps they will be reflecting on the only asset they have to quantify & monetize.

Note to Broker...Sell Airlines/Airports...buy Bovis/AstraZeneca))

Throughout history most airlines will eventually fail or get taken over only to be replaced by new airlines. On the other hand airports handling passenger flights are harder to kill off and just seem to linger on in one form or another while they wait for the glory days again. I don’t see Southend disappearing even if it lost all of its passengers and airlines.

NQY is owned by Cornwall Council

MME is also 75% owned by Tees Valley Combined Authority - with the other 25% Stobart Group

ISC is owned by the Duchy of Cornwall if that counts as government!

If we turn the clock back to a time when there was much heated discussion as to a bright or no future for SEN, there were a number of us myself included that thought our airport with 3500 habitations thereon would be a massive attraction to the council, to name but one organisation. At the present that could be another option? I was involved in aviation for 47 years and I still see that prior to Covid there were to many airlines chasing to few passengers. If the credit card spending boom is gone then the airports future looks fragile?

Luton is owned by Luton Borough Council.
Stansted, East Midlands and Manchester are majority owned by a consortium of councils in the Manchester area.
All military airfields are owned by the MoD.

Not totally correct of course ...

MAG...Owner of Stansted, East Midlands and Manchester is 35.5% owned by Australian investment fund IFM Investors.

LGS6753: Stansted, East Midlands and Manchester are majority owned by a consortium of councils in the Manchester area.

southside bobby: Not totally correct of course ...

MAG...Owner of Stansted, East Midlands and Manchester is 35.5% owned by Australian investment fund IFM Investors.

Maybe I am splitting hairs but am I missing something - 35.5% would be a minority so the original statement was correct??
(Although I would accept bobby's original observation that the airport is not "council owned"!) :)

Not quite Orwellian yet...

A post is easy to edit but not so much the memory of the same short post of course is perhaps all to say....

Though an ungenerous observer may well think slightly underhand at least.

Reported elsewhere that 25 easyJets to be parked up at SEN over the winter. Does this reinstate our ‘base’ status I wonder.

Cheap and close to where EZY want them if things recover more likely. Does SEN have that much space then?

Is the presence of the sea salt in the air nearby likely a factor in long term storage, or does a gap of a couple of miles make it a non-issue ?

Travels up to 50 miles inland, apparently.

https://pomametals.com/salt-air-inla...nce-for-metal/

The aircraft don’t just sit there, there is a turnover with some off to other airports as an exchange or sometimes not. Not unusual to see one take a spin around the coast and land 10 mins or so later.