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Planespeaking 22nd Aug 2019 06:57


Originally Posted by runwayman (Post 10550806)
Possibly some sort of announcement tomorrow

Reported by Reuters WizzAir to commence services with 14 flights per week from SEN.

Also hanger being re-furbished in readiness for freight flights for Amazon.

Expressflight 22nd Aug 2019 07:11

The first three routes are Bucharest, Sibiu and Vilnius, commencing in October and November. Should be on sale from today.

DC3 Dave 22nd Aug 2019 08:28


Originally Posted by Planespeaking (Post 10551329)


Reported by Reuters WizzAir to commence services with 14 flights per week from SEN.

Also hanger being re-furbished in readiness for freight flights for Amazon.

Great news coming so soon after the slightly disappointing Loganair reduction in services.

Anyone who's followed this thread over the last 2/3 years will appreciate how long it has taken to get here.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/178...r-partnership/

runwayman 22nd Aug 2019 09:52

Interestingly the Sibiu operates inbound on days 1/2/3/4/5/6/7 but appears to operate only outbound Days 3/7

AirportPlanner1 22nd Aug 2019 09:57

It’s actually 15 weekly - daily to Sibiu, 5x weekly to Bucharest (Mon/Wed/Thu/Fri/Sun) and 3x weekly to Vilnius (Tue/Thu/Sun).

The Tue and Sat departures to Vilnius are at 17:55, otherwise the rest are quite late - 19:40 on Thu, Bucharest 21:25 and Sibiu 21:30. This seems good for the airport as it avoids peak and will allow retail/f&b units to open longer with more activity.

tws123 22nd Aug 2019 14:12

New route Ryanair Bucharest
 
Just seen that Ryanair are also launching SEN-Bucharest as well in November at 5x weekly.

Direct competition in response to new Wizz Air flights perhaps?

Plane mad 134 22nd Aug 2019 14:53

Ryanair done the same at Edinburgh.

Planespeaking 22nd Aug 2019 15:14


Originally Posted by tws123 (Post 10551745)
Just seen that Ryanair are also launching SEN-Bucharest as well in November at 5x weekly.

Direct competition in response to new Wizz Air flights perhaps?

Interesting. Perhaps it shows that FR consider SEN important enough to fight for.

LBIA 22nd Aug 2019 15:18

Ryanair have announced London Southend to Bucharest (5x weekly) and Vilnius (3x weekly)

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...ean-expansion/

1sky 22nd Aug 2019 16:40

SEN based aircraft obviously so what routes are Ryanair cancelling to operate Bucharest and Vilnius?

fatmed 22nd Aug 2019 17:11


Originally Posted by 1sky (Post 10551850)
SEN based aircraft obviously so what routes are Ryanair cancelling to operate Bucharest and Vilnius?

they were only operating 2 of the 3 based in winter so plenty of spaces for these.

pabely 22nd Aug 2019 18:26


Originally Posted by Planespeaking (Post 10551329)
Also hanger being re-furbished in readiness for freight flights for Amazon.

I assume night flights, how will that effect Night Quota and thus Stobart Jet Centre?

AirportPlanner1 22nd Aug 2019 19:40


Originally Posted by LBIA (Post 10551796)
Ryanair have announced London Southend to Bucharest (5x weekly) and Vilnius (3x weekly)

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...ean-expansion/

Entirely coincidental I’m sure but both routes operating the same days as Wizz

DC3 Dave 22nd Aug 2019 19:49

So Ryanair quickly match Wizz on 2 out of 3 new routes. Poker? Chess? Madness?

LTNman 22nd Aug 2019 20:18

Guess there will only be one winner with two losers including Southend. Luton saw a fight between Ryanair and Easyjet on the Copenhagen route making it Luton's busiest route. As soon as Ryanair won the battle they retreated back to Stansted with their win leaving Luton with a few crumbs. It seems history is going to repeat itself with Southend also being a victim as it is already looking like Wizz could be in for a short stay which will be a big shame.

Stobart must be looking on in disbelief as Ryanair is now calling the shots.

DC3 Dave 22nd Aug 2019 20:40


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10551978)
Guess there will only be one winner with two losers including Southend. Luton saw a fight between Ryanair and Easyjet on the Copenhagen route making it Luton's busiest route. As soon as Ryanair won the battle they retreated back to Stansted with their win leaving Luton with a few crumbs. It seems history is going to repeat itself with Southend also being a victim as it is already looking like Wizz could be in for a short stay which will be a big shame.

Stobart must be looking on in disbelief as Ryanair is now calling the shots.

There must be a mole at SEN (or Wizz) for FR to react so quickly. Or are we looking at matters from the wrong perspective? Maybe Wizz knew in advance what FR had planned for the winter and decided to aim a blow to their proverbials just because they could?


AirportPlanner1 22nd Aug 2019 20:43


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10551978)
Guess there will only be one winner with two losers including Southend. Luton saw a fight between Ryanair and Easyjet on the Copenhagen route making it Luton's busiest route. As soon as Ryanair won the battle they retreated back to Stansted with their win leaving Luton with a few crumbs. It seems history is going to repeat itself with Southend also being a victim as it is already looking like Wizz could be in for a short stay which will be a big shame.

Stobart must be looking on in disbelief as Ryanair is now calling the shots.

The CPH battle had different dynamics. The route was Stansted’s - for many years it had been operated circa 3x daily by SAS/Go/Easyjet.

Then EZY shifted it to LTN 3 x daily, and along came FR to join them matching the frequency. £10 returns followed, until EZY gave up and FR returned the route to STN at the same frequency it always had been.

This time there is a new entrant to SEN operating some routes the airport has never had to some routes the incumbents don’t serve. What happens next is anyone’s guess but it’s not a foregone conclusion FR will win this time although there are more questions than answers (what next? what happens next summer when summer routes are ramped up and they can’t fit them into the schedule?)

AirportPlanner1 22nd Aug 2019 20:45


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 10551998)
There must be a mole at SEN (or Wizz) for FR to react so quickly. Or are we looking at matters from the wrong perspective? Maybe Wizz knew in advance what FR had planned for the winter and decided to aim a blow to their proverbials just because they could?

To me it looks like FR saw the news with everyone else and quickly put together a spoiler. Otherwise they’d have had the route announced and on sale yesterday. Not announced and then on sale a couple of hours later.

DC3 Dave 22nd Aug 2019 20:59

AP, you would know better than me. Who is likely to win this battle? Seems to me that underestimating Wizz's resolve and resources is something you do at considerable risk. Only worth doing if FR have serious long term ambitious at SEN.

LTNman 22nd Aug 2019 21:04

It has certainly taken the gloss off from the start of the day. Plenty of potential new routes from Southend and now we have two players announcing the same new routes on the same day. In the short term it will be great for SEN with passengers chasing £10 fares but the party won’t last long. For Stobart their mission will be to keep Wizz at the airport with Ryanair trying to force them out. Deepest pockets comes to mind and Ryanair has the deepest pockets.

As for Ryanair they have no commitment to any airport apart from a few big players so forcing Wizz to leave means no long term commitment to Southend.


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