Can someone who has access to real figures provide some insight into the reality of the loads on our route?

Don't like the ones you're being provided I assume Owen?

I know the loads are poor but there are several factors for that. Hopefully things will pick up once it gets established and people realise that Stewart isn't that far out of NYC. Perhaps as options grow onwards from SWF or when the big new Legoland opens next door and families start to make trips there etc... I just can't see why using the plane to near Europe on either a new location or an established one would be that much more of a risk than just leaving it sitting for 6 hours in BFS. I feel it will take a bit of speculation to come up with an answer

2nd based A320 for EZY
 

Looks like the 2nd A320 will be based a little earlier than i thought... seems to be based from around the 7th February 2018 instead of the end of March.

3x A319 & 2x A320 based :ok:

Looks like Geneva flights on Saturdays from 10th February will be using the 2nd A320! Plenty of seats available to Geneva now with the 3rd daily flight added the other week on Saturdays!

Even cdg is 5 hrs round trip, Scandinavia would be even further away, cant see it happening folks unless they arrive in earlier eg 05 06

A nice short domestic would do - say NCL! :ok:

Or Stansted.

The only official stats we have are CAA for July.

SWF had an average load of 138 pax (74%)
PVD had an average load of 110 pax (59%)

The load factor would of course be higher if some of those flights had a max load limit of less than 186 seats, as happened with some B737-800 flights.

To compare, EDI-SWF had an average load of 143 pax (77%) and EDI-PVD had an average load of 129 pax (69%).

PVD was 738 and SWF 738 MAX.

It's a new business model that may or may not work, Dublin is doing really ditto EDI, not every route will work, some may grow frequency others may fail.

I don't think the aircraft type is to blame, the lack of an up front product will put some off when their employer is footing the bill, some of the flight time are point to point quicker than other options

employers and buisness travel are not really the target market here.
If the capacity is not 100 % load factor, im not sure why its being limited by seat cap?

Because of range issues.

The 737-800 has the capacity restrictions, however the 737 MAX does not.

So, PVD is near 70 %!

No because the operation switches between MAX and NG

MAX only started flying on the PVD service this month and was only on a couple of flights.

Who is the idiot in charge of marketing at Belfast international airport! On twitter there is an advert advertising a beach break with easy jet with the slogan "Orlando is overrated anyway"! Does this person not realise that Virgin have a 6 month program to Orlando from bfs next year! They are basically saying Orlando is crap! Also if you look st the amount posts to travel with Norwegian it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that the two routes are clearly struggling. And iv been to Stewart and it's not that easy getting to New York.

The MAX & NG have the same lift & fuel capacity, both are now ETOPS, the max is of course heavier and it's a Cat 'D' aircraft for minima.

The only real benefit of the max is lower fuel burns saving at best 250kg per hour so even on a 6 hour flight it's only 1500kg

On OTS routes you'll normally be capped at 340 going west and then climb to 380 after the exit point so around 165 -170 is the practical pax limit, east bound isn't an issue, but either way I suspect that the A321NeoLR will be more suited

Taken across all routes ( PVD BDL SWF) to/from (BFS DUB SNN ORK EDI BGO) it's doing ok, there is bound to be some tweaking, I think DUB will work year round, I'm less certain of the BFS point to point market and onward connections inbound to BFS are far less than DUB

Fuel saving is around 2.5 tonnes per flight, so 5 tonnes per return trip, give or take for weather etc

Its like hitting your head against the wall at times, one step foward two back😲

6 month? Is it not only in the Summer period?

I believe VS is Late March to early September. I am sure someone will correct if I am not right!

Correct Gazmo starts at beginning of Easter school hols

You need to know the Management at the Airport
 

They are hilarious. Add several ,eclectic, variations of the provincial accent and multiply that in a closed room. You actually wince as they get down to business. The International bit always amuses me ; the majority of the international business, is mail. So there's a downer right away. The technology in Aldergove, if it was audited properly, would shut down the airport in a heartbeat. It's not much of a contract and will probably bite the dust leaving City to reap the benefits.

What international mail services do they run?

Someone is not a happy camper!

Spambhoy, you post as though you have direct experience with Aldergrove management. I have met a few of the individuals at various functions, some of them may not come across as the sharpest of characters but you can't deny that as a team, they are currently on a roll. How long it lasts may be up for debate but if its long enough to do Harbour irreparable damage then surely thats their mission accomplished.

I'm not sure how you audit technology and how this audit would lead the an airport being closed, that sounds a bit dramatic! I would suggest any technology is obsolete shortly after it is installed. As far as Harbour reaping benefits, perhaps you should drop their marketing director a quick line, think they need all the suggestions they can get at the minute!:\

Is Ryanair stopping London-Gatwick flights for Winter 2017/18? Appears to be off sale!

Edit: Looks like people have had their flights cancelled from November!

Interesting! Maybe adjusting the schedule.


Cant see them cutting out LGW as route very popular

My flight has been cancelled. It's short notice for them to do this, not fair.

Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's making money.

Just checked, nothing bookable after October 28th and a few pics on twitter showing messages from Ryanair apologising for having to cancel already booked Belfast - Gatwick flights in November.

So, you think it's appropriate to cancel flights a few weeks in advance of the flights?

I have zero idea why you think it appropriate to ask me. Less so what difference my answer would make.

Sorry, I hit a nerve. I'll make sure to steer clear of you in future.

Just checked my booking for 25/11 - 01/12. Cancelled too :mad:

Just rebooked with EZY, now just as cheap as the FR flights. Happier now since I'm doing a DIY connection at LGW on to a BA flight.

Unfortunately haven't yet been able to process the refund on Ryanair's website - says flight is not cancelled or dealyed > 3 hours?

What is going on with FR? :ugh:

You should be happy mr i love dublin

This will have a massive impact on passenger numbers if it's dropped, 5 daily thats over 56,000 seats per month lost and not even a few extra EZY flights could cover it.

Have they passed the minimum EU requirement to use the slots on the route??

Terrible smell tonight of :mad:, wat are fr up to?