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SWBKCB 10th Aug 2020 05:22


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 10857012)
Newcastle base closes end of month.

End of August? Thought the 90-day consultation period was announced on 30 June, and then there would be a notice period?

planedrive 10th Aug 2020 08:57


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10857164)
End of August? Thought the 90-day consultation period was announced on 30 June, and then there would be a notice period?

It's still under consultation at the moment so nothing has been agreed. But the original proposal was to close on the 31st August with pay in lieu of notice taking effect.

The consultation was a minimum 45 days.

True Blue 10th Aug 2020 14:07

The pricing of flights has changed again today for those I checked in September. Flights operated by Bfs based aircraft are back to normal pricing, flights operated by away based aircraft are still showing the higher prices.

BFS BHD 14th Aug 2020 20:01

easyJet - Winter 2020/21
 
Appears easyJet has added a few extra flights on some routes:

Birmingham - Extra Thursday morning flight. (06:40 Dep)

Glasgow - Extra Tuesday evening flight (20:45 Dep) and Extra Saturday Afternoon flight (14:30 Dep)

Gatwick - Extra Saturday morning flight (10:40 Dep)

Malaga - Saturday flight added (15:50 Dep)

Glasgow Tuesday 20:45 & Gatwick 10:40 flight use non based aircraft rest are BFS based aircraft.

They still planning on operating to Leeds?

True Blue 14th Aug 2020 21:15

Major changes seems to be coming for Ncl route. After about 14th Nov very few flights on sale at all, some days have no service. It would seem that all Ncl based services have been taken off sale, just those operating Bfs based services seem to be on sale.

If Ncl and Stn routes are to be served by Bfs based aircraft and the large increase on domestic routes remains for W20/21, how could they do this with 6 based aircraft?

BFS BHD 15th Aug 2020 08:36

Jet2
 
Looks like Jet2 has dropped Verona for the winter season. No longer bookable on their website.

kildress 17th Aug 2020 09:10

Does anyone there know what happened with BFS/AGP U2 6755, G-EZBC, this morning?
It appeared to start take off but not accelerate much before returning to stand.

True Blue 23rd Aug 2020 20:29

Out of curiosity I have being doing some searches on Ezy flights out of Bfs, using a requirement for 10 pax. It is amazing how many flights come up as full. Bhx, for example, has no seats until Wednesday 2nd September. Many routes are the same. Come September, they reduce fights on many routes, using Bhx again as an example, they go back to one flight on a Monday, which actually sells out quickly. I accept they are there to make a profit, but I am starting to think that they may be controlling capacity a bit too well. They also need to encourage pax to fly, they will not do that well if flights are full due to the limited services available. I know this is a difficult situation, but big business also has to play its part to try and get s back to some degree of normality, bearing in mind Covid could be with us for a long time yet. Man is another route that has a limited service to an extent that surprises me.

I will add to that odd times as well. Edi for example has departures ex Bfs on 24th Sept at 17.00 and 17.20, then on the 27th departures at 20.25 and 20.35. I have seen this before on other routes. Why have departures so close together?

BHX5DME 23rd Aug 2020 21:54


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 10868692)
Out of curiosity I have being doing some searches on Ezy flights out of Bfs, using a requirement for 10 pax. It is amazing how many flights come up as full. Bhx, for example, has no seats until Wednesday 2nd September. Many routes are the same. Come September, they reduce fights on many routes, using Bhx again as an example, they go back to one flight on a Monday, which actually sells out quickly. I accept they are there to make a profit, but I am starting to think that they may be controlling capacity a bit too well. They also need to encourage pax to fly, they will not do that well if flights are full due to the limited services available. I know this is a difficult situation, but big business also has to play its part to try and get s back to some degree of normality, bearing in mind Covid could be with us for a long time yet. Man is another route that has a limited service to an extent that surprises me.

I will add to that odd times as well. Edi for example has departures ex Bfs on 24th Sept at 17.00 and 17.20, then on the 27th departures at 20.25 and 20.35. I have seen this before on other routes. Why have departures so close together?

BFS-BHX is nearly always full

GAZMO 24th Aug 2020 14:07

Have to agree True Blue with your comments.

Looking at BHX in particular no seats available from BFS on 25 26 28 29 30 31 August and 1 September
To BRS no seats on 31 August and 2 September
Many of the other domestic routes maybe only have seats available of one flight only as others fully booked

FFMAN 26th Aug 2020 07:58

We tried to get some colleagues over here to Manchester for a much delayed and necessary site visit.
We spent / wasted more than 2 hours on this and in the end have concluded it's impossible in any practical sense whatsoever. The flight days / times are a complete screwfest.
It was probably easier to fly between the two cities in 1947.
Economies are going to get smashed unless something changes.

allnamestaken1 26th Aug 2020 18:50

Jet2 operated the Verona flight on behalf of a tour operator,they have cancelled it to 2021/22.


True Blue 26th Aug 2020 21:31

Yes the times to Man are not good at all. On several days the one flight departs around 9.30pm. First flight on a Monday could be late morning. I have heard from several businesses that they are tired of zoom calls and want to get back to personal meetings. That is very important in industries where establishing good personal relationships is important. We have heard a lot in this province about the importance of air connectivity, I'm not sure Ezy are contributing to that as well as they could. Just my opinion as I believe that big business especially have a big part to play in trying to get some sort of recovery.

mart901 26th Aug 2020 21:45


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 10871319)
Yes the times to Man are not good at all. On several days the one flight departs around 9.30pm. First flight on a Monday could be late morning. I have heard from several businesses that they are tired of zoom calls and want to get back to personal meetings. That is very important in industries where establishing good personal relationships is important. We have heard a lot in this province about the importance of air connectivity, I'm not sure Ezy are contributing to that as well as they could. Just my opinion as I believe that big business especially have a big part to play in trying to get some sort of recovery.

Won't be an issue soon when EIR get going 3-4 times daily

True Blue 28th Aug 2020 22:23

I have been looking and I think, but I'm not sure, that Ezy may have taken a flight off the London routes most days going into October. If I am right, I have to say that will not improve matters for those looking to travel. With the closure of the Stn base, times on the Stn route are now largely useless, two flights on a Friday and one on a Sunday. The result of that is that the only flight to Stn on Sunday 3rd Jan 2021 is currently £358.99(single). As Ezy tries hard to destroy the route to Stn, I wonder will Fr step in again now that they are looking at much less competition on the route.

Ezy it appears certainly doesn't believe it has much of a role to play in keeping that all important connectivity at a good level or trying to get business going. Do they believe business has more or less stopped?

GAZMO 29th Aug 2020 10:07

TB - I still think they are in the process of finalising NCL and STN, although they are taking their time.

Still wondering about the twice daily LBA ? Has anyone any news on this route??

BHX5DME 29th Aug 2020 10:20

I cannot see how easy could now fit in LBA as it looks like BHX has been deceased to accomodate NCL and STN

ATNotts 29th Aug 2020 15:23


Originally Posted by BHX5DME (Post 10873403)
I cannot see how easy could now fit in LBA as it looks like BHX has been deceased to accomodate NCL and STN

I think reports of BHXs' death are somewhat exaggerated!!

(Did the honourable member mean decreased?).

DUB19 29th Aug 2020 16:51

Any ideas why Wizz Air have got flights from BFS-VNO for over £100 next summer Could this be the end of the route?

camperdown9 30th Aug 2020 12:03


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 10868692)
Out of curiosity I have being doing some searches on Ezy flights out of Bfs, using a requirement for 10 pax. It is amazing how many flights come up as full. Bhx, for example, has no seats until Wednesday 2nd September. Many routes are the same. Come September, they reduce fights on many routes, using Bhx again as an example, they go back to one flight on a Monday, which actually sells out quickly. I accept they are there to make a profit, but I am starting to think that they may be controlling capacity a bit too well. They also need to encourage pax to fly, they will not do that well if flights are full due to the limited services available. I know this is a difficult situation, but big business also has to play its part to try and get s back to some degree of normality, bearing in mind Covid could be with us for a long time yet. Man is another route that has a limited service to an extent that surprises me.

I will add to that odd times as well. Edi for example has departures ex Bfs on 24th Sept at 17.00 and 17.20, then on the 27th departures at 20.25 and 20.35. I have seen this before on other routes. Why have departures so close together?

I was looking for flights from London to Belfast for a day return, on a Friday and in December. The first flight from STN wasn't until around 1500 so that was no good. BA last flight back from BHD to LHR is also very early. So I ended up with Easyjet from Gatwick. Seams to be limited choices at the moment.

I guess if you are coming from Belfast and heading to central London then it doesn't matter so much if its STN or LGW. However if you live in South London then going to STN is a pain and if you live in north east or east of London then LGW is equally as bad. Its not so much the distance its the travel time and traffic.

Alex


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