Originally Posted by SealinkBF
(Post 10498218)
As someone who is from Belfast, the idea that not enough is being done is laughable. Game of Thrones for goodness sake. Titanic! The travel apps for NI are amazing.
Blame APD but the tourist board is going above and beyond their duty! Maybe just maybe theres not enough business for a five to seven day daily flight. |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10498602)
I wonder if for many Northern Ireland is considered more an add on to a holiday in Ireland than a destination in its own right especially for Americans. Hence people start and end their journeys in Dublin rather than Belfast.
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Originally Posted by 2Para
(Post 10498762)
sure most of the republic have no internet coverage and the roads are horrendous, and before anyone takes offense i would ask them to go for a drive down the west coast and prove me wrong.
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Thomas Cook - Summer 2020
Some changes for Summer 2020
Palma - NEW 1 Weekly (Wednesday) Reus - Up from 3 Weekly to 4 Weekly (Monday, Tuesday, Friday & Saturday) Enfidha - Down from 2 Weekly to 1 Weekly (Sunday) Antalya - 2 Weekly (Wednesday & Sunday) Dalaman - 3 Weekly (Monday, Thursday & Saturday) Lanzarote - 1 Weekly (Thursday) Tenerife - 2 Weekly (Tuesday & Friday) Larnaca - Dropped |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10498843)
What's that got to do with people holidaying and starting in Dublin?
In terms of roads in the west coast, have you been there 2Para? Regardless of the fact that you can get to every city in the republic from Dublin on motorway quality roads, and the northern border, you can also drive from Tuam, to South of Limerick City on continuous 137km worth of motorway or HQDC quality roads (106km of which is actually designated motorway (M17/M18/M20)) which is 7 kms short of overtaking the length of Northern Ireland's entire motorway network which stands at just 113.1km per the source here. Yet when I drive North of the Border when I want to go home, I go from the M1 to the horrific winding A1 "Dual Carriageway", get stuck at York Gate Interchange, and don't even get me started on the A5 and A6. There isn't even a dual carriageway connection to the "International" Airport for crying out loud!!! |
No one mentioned life quality. He was just asking why people choose to start their journey in Dublin instead of Northern Ireland. And he is right. I have noticed this with English people who visit Northern Ireland, despite NI being miles from DUB and BFS being a lot easier to get to. if I am honest, I think it is because foreigners just have a lot more positive feelings and thoughts towards ROI than NI. NI people are seen as being very direct and blunt. A lot of nationalities don’t like that, unfortunately. Particularly the Southern English. |
Does anyone notice the massive hike in prices for Easyjet to STN since Ryanair has pulled off? I regularly seen £40-£80 return, now it is in and around £150-£200.
Can't see people from NI consistency paying that. |
Pretty simple Owen. Supply vs. demand. When supply goes down (fewer seats on offer due to FR’s reduction), then demand for remaining seats goes up (as does the price). |
Owenc, that's rather a derogatory comment about us decent NI folk, I don't think we are particularly miserable!
Consistency? |
Originally Posted by cuthere
(Post 10501417)
Supply vs. demand. When supply goes down (fewer seats on offer due to FR’s reduction), then demand for remaining seats goes up (as does the price). It's not obscure economics, it's the entire basis of Ryanair's strategy! And indeed how Easyjet started ( fly to London for the price of a pair of jeans ). On the Stansted, Easyjet seem to have calculated that they can maintain the route solely by milking the must-fly base load of passengers and discarding the opportunistic, discretionary demand that Ryanair had cultivated. |
Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 10501403)
Does anyone notice the massive hike in prices for Easyjet to STN since Ryanair has pulled off? I regularly seen £40-£80 return, now it is in and around £150-£200.
Can't see people from NI consistency paying that. |
I didn't mention APD? I just noticed the substantial hike in prices once Ryanair pulled out.
Usually, i'd book my flights a week or so in advance and i'd always get a decent fare. It seems now that one has to book his flight about a month before to get a decent fare. |
Even all the Causeway, GoT and Titanic 'foreigners' ? |
Ok then..Americans and so on are flocking to Northern Ireland. Where are our Transatlantic flights?
And why does Dublin airport have over 31 million passengers per annum compared with BFS's measly 6.5 million? Explain that. The reality is that foreigners want the authentic Irish experience, so they go south. They don't want to see Belfast or look at 'Peace Wall's'. |
Try booking LHR a week I advance and see how that works out. Airlines exist to make money. It is not our fundamental right to jet around the place for £20 and If the climate alarmists get their way you’ll be in for an even bigger shock. As for Ryanair, the last time I went to Manchester at 2 weeks notice, Easyjet were over £100 cheaper. 30 years ago it was around £270 rtn to London. That’s £550 in today’s money so we’re doing ok. |
When did I say I paid £20 return Husky? Don’t pick at my financial situation. |
Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 10501799)
Ok then..Americans and so on are flocking to Northern Ireland. Where are our Transatlantic flights?
And why does Dublin airport have over 31 million passengers per annum compared with BFS's measly 6.5 million? Explain that. The reality is that foreigners want the authentic Irish experience, so they go south. They don't want to see Belfast or look at 'Peace Wall's'. |
Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 10501784)
I didn't mention APD? I just noticed the substantial hike in prices once Ryanair pulled out.
Usually, i'd book my flights a week or so in advance and i'd always get a decent fare. It seems now that one has to book his flight about a month before to get a decent fare. I would never leave flights to a week ahead to book, its normally months and even up to a year or more. We booked Lanzarote in April and we're travelling in July 2020 par example. Low cost airlines work on the basis they get more expensive the closer you get, the opposite to how airlines (charter in particular) used to work. They budget things like fuel on funds from early bookings.This is the whole reason Ryanair have reduced services, the fact you could get cheap fares at the last minute means they've sold below cost all the way through from when the flight went on sale. |
Originally Posted by mart901
(Post 10502157)
It was Ryanair that stated they pulled flights because of APD, sorry if I wasn't clear.
I would never leave flights to a week ahead to book, its normally months and even up to a year or more. We booked Lanzarote in April and we're travelling in July 2020 par example. Low cost airlines work on the basis they get more expensive the closer you get, the opposite to how airlines (charter in particular) used to work. They budget things like fuel on funds from early bookings.This is the whole reason Ryanair have reduced services, the fact you could get cheap fares at the last minute means they've sold below cost all the way through from when the flight went on sale. |
Originally Posted by speedrestriction
(Post 10502161)
Its a bit more complicated than that - airlines are running systems 24/7/365 constantly analysing booking rates, inventory, competitor pricing etc and then adjusting their fares to optimise yield - this can lead to prices rising or falling as the day of flight approaches. There are tens of variables which will affect the quoted prices at any particular time. |
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